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From Toques to Tires. And Ticonderogas

Mark & RJ Season 1 Episode 6

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We start with an argument over whether it’s a toque, a beanie, or a toboggan hat.  Then solve a heater issue, debate ship classes and tires, and phone a friend wrestling with a classic motivation trap.  And we slow down for the most human moment of the hour—how to care for a dog during a long seizure with calm and cuddles.

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Cold Snap And Toque Debate

SPEAKER_03

Hey everybody, welcome back to Satin's Tiny. I'm Margin. This is Mark. It's uh it's still cold. Really cold. Yeah. Uh oh well last night was really cold. Um today it's it's you know just below freezing, I think. I don't know. Yeah, it was uh I think it was like 36 when I went into town here a little while ago. Okay. Yeah, that's uh it you know with the wind, it feels really cold. And then I think uh for me and people that visit here, um, they say that just often feels a lot colder than the temperature, and I think that's because of the moisture. Do you guys notice that?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and in fact, uh Christina looked it up the other night because she's it feels colder here than she did up in Washington State, and it actually says that yeah, it is it's it is colder because the oh Jesus, I can't remember the term that she used.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, uh well, she probably probably dew point. Yeah, yeah, but it has nothing to do with the dew point. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I don't know. Uh no, I I remember when I the first little bit of the first winter I was here, I'd be outside and be like, God, it must be like 25 degrees, and I'd look as like 40. I'm like, geez, I feel so weird.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, it it looks like we're we might even hit 74 by the end of the week.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, uh I mean, yeah, after tonight it's actually gonna be pretty nice, I think, for a bit. That'll be nice. Um, I speaking of cold weather, I do have a bone to pick with you. Yes, sir. You yeah, you didn't say anything about my toque. Your toque? Yeah, my toque. Which I I think is nice, but you just kind of blew it off.

SPEAKER_01

What was a toque?

SPEAKER_03

My toque. I don't know what a toque is. It's a it's a beanie. Did you see my beanie I was wearing earlier?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I did see that that you were wearing earlier.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's what they call them in Canada.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I thought it was called a toboggan. That's a thing that you get you sit on go down the hill. Well, yes, but they also call it a toboggan and probably the northeast. Not uh not a hat. Yes, uh a beanie or whatever you want to call it in the stocking cap. They call it a uh bullshit. Bullshit.

SPEAKER_03

I uh yeah, I don't b I've not heard that. I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but uh we'll just we'll just say that we have different opinions and and yours is not right.

SPEAKER_01

So damn it, and she's not even here to make fun of me, and there you go.

Truck Tires And Old Body Styles

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, um, I know. The uh yeah, it's a took. Um which I usually don't wear, but it does feel kind of nice when it's that cold out there. Yeah, I'm sure it does. Um now now that I now that you're in the hot seat, uh now we can talk now. We talk about your tires for real. Um you were saying earlier, like uh uh, you know, when when you drive back to Washington, you're like, uh, you know, I th I think they'll make it. Uh I'm like, well, uh, I told you they were no good for a drive back to Washington, like three drives back to Washington ago, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And you know that, but you're just being stubborn. I am being stubborn. Yeah. Uh you should probably look into new ones?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you just need to get new ones. I know, but I need to get some bigger ones that fit that fill out those wheel wells, because right now it looks like you're running little 13-inch tires on NF350.

SPEAKER_03

Uh I think that's a word you could look up, need, because I don't think you used it correctly in that sentence. I don't think you need new ones or bigger ones. Why? Uh I mean, I get your point. The the expo does look pretty tense with the those tires that we made.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I I remember one time when I came down, you're like, dude, those you need to fill in those wheel wells with some tires. Yeah, that's just me being a dick.

SPEAKER_03

Um when you're talking practically speaking, you know, that's maybe the best use of money. Um and you can't pull a you can't pull a dodge ramp ebay maneuver like I did.

SPEAKER_01

Uh no, uh uh hope those will only fit on F F350 rims are just for F350s 91 through 2001, I think it is F350s and 250s for those that are gonna get technical.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I yeah, I got getting somewhat technical. Um well, just you know, just get some new fucking tires. Like that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I'll get some new tires. When are you gonna when are you making that drive? Uh probably the first week in March. First week in March.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Well, you know, okay. You run a really good chance of hitting some cold weather and stuff. And you know, since you can't successfully navigate from the start of your driveway to the end of your driveway without putting it in four low right now when it's a little bit damp, I'd say maybe.

SPEAKER_01

I thought they'd just be better highway tires, you know, they're not gonna grip and waste my gas mileage. Sure.

SPEAKER_03

Uh slicks? Do we call those slicks? Yeah, we call them slicks in the racing biz. Slicks.

SPEAKER_01

I it'll it'll do over a hundred, so it'd be like racing. Yeah, it won't do over a hundred. What? Well, your truck? Yeah. No, it probably would. I think it's like a hundred and five and then it it shuts off until you get back down to like eighty or something like that.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, it's limited?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's annoying. From what I understand, I know the older the old Fords, the OBSs as they call them, they they go up to like a hundred, hundred and five and then they shut off until you get back down to like seventy-five or eighty. OBS. Old body style. Oh.

SPEAKER_03

What what which how old is old body style? Ah, Jesus. I've got a 65 F100s out front right now. That's is that would be would that be a that's Bobs? Like S OBS? Super roll body style? What's the cutoff here?

SPEAKER_01

Um OBS is what is it, 80 89 to no, not eighty eighty-nine to ninety-six or something like that.

SPEAKER_03

That's not how how is that old? That's just like that's sort of mid.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's like the the Chevies, you know, the 83 and up to god, almost 90, they call them square body because they were square.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, well, I okay, so it's not like I just I just looked something up. Um for actually you were wrong. Refers the 87 to 97. I don't remember what he said, but I'm sure it was wrong. 89 to 96. Yeah. I'm even in the ballpark. Um, yeah, so I get I I get it now. Like a old bottle body style, it's not descriptive so much, it's more like a nickname. Yeah. It's talking about, yeah, that that quote, that generation, the one that we all knew and loved.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I had one of those up until about four months ago. Yeah, I know. Uh I remember that was around. Speaking of looking stuff up, your uh beanie that you're talking about? My beanie or N Beanie and Beanies in general. My toque? My toque. Toque. Uh-huh. Let's take it. Toque. Um, beanies are commonly referred to as toboggan hats. I'm gonna need you to cite your source. Um Google.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, we already tried this last time. AI. Nope, just Google. Google search. Just Google. Okay. Well, I'm gonna take your word for it. I've actually never heard you said Northeast. I think it's the Northeast. Probably the Midwest. It sounds more well, maybe more of a Midwest thing, but this country. How about that? Uh I see what you did. I was trying to reach out to our international audience, but sure, let's just bring it back. I wasn't trying to upset them, but if so, fuck off.

SPEAKER_01

Why don't you take your toque and fuck off? Your took. Here, take another took.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So the Grammys are on tonight, and I'm not I'm not into word shows. You you aren't either, right? No, I'm not. Yeah. So they're just on, you know, on my channel. Um because you only get one channel. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I know that's I think that's been established. Um yeah, but I I it's like the chainsaw, it's just gonna come up every once in a while.

SPEAKER_03

Now the chainsaw is a is a is a worth is a valid dig at me for sure. Uh there ain't nothing wrong with having one channel. I'm gonna be honest with you, because I don't ever have that anxiety of like, what do I watch or flip through Netflix for an hour? Oh, I don't like the uh it's just what's on the channel. Yeah. But I uh sort of a segue into because like ever literally everybody on the Grammys, I'm like, who's that? Who's that? Who's that? I don't know anything. I don't know any of the culture yeah, anymore, but you know older stuff. And I was gonna tell you, did you know Patrick Swayze died? Oh like 12 years ago, 15 years ago. I mean, it's not like it was yesterday, maybe last week, but uh I was watching entertainment tonight or something. Um they're making a second dirty dancing. And I don't know, I didn't know if you heard that Patrick Swayze died, so yeah, he died Jesus in like oh nine or something like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't think that's right. So they they redid Roadhouse and now they're gonna redo dirty dancing. Okay. I don't I'm not familiar with Roadhouse. Patrick Swayze was in Roadhouse before he died.

Awards Shows And Swayze Remakes

SPEAKER_03

Way before he died, yeah. He I mean, yeah, he would have had to. Well, I'm looking at I actually I have my computer on this dungeon, I can look shit up too. No, you're wrong, he died in 2009.

SPEAKER_05

So that's what I said.

SPEAKER_03

Is it how and yeah, I guess I guess your point stands. I was way off on the it being.

SPEAKER_01

Then let's write that down. Ryan does not listen to me.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, all right. That's what'd you say?

SPEAKER_01

I said let's that way our international people can write it down also. Let's.

SPEAKER_03

Let's uh yeah. Well, uh uh to be fair, a good percentage of what comes out of your mouth is bullshit. Yes, it is. So I think I think if we're gonna say I don't listen to you, we're gonna call that uh 50-50. We'll call it one of those two-way records. We need to have somebody that fact checks our bullshit. No, we don't. That would be so fun. I'd we did there we nothing else would get in. I mean it'd just be that.

SPEAKER_01

We'd both be we'd both be sitting there waiting for somebody looking up, going, okay, who's right? Who's right?

SPEAKER_03

Typically, uh I well when it comes to uh let's say famous people and stuff and music and movies and stuff, uh you're almost always right. I'm almost always wrong. When it comes to pretty much anything else, um I am always right.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Jesus, and I haven't even put a ring on it. I'm always right, Mark. I'm always right. Yeah. With me, it'd be a different kind of ring. Um, you want one of them diamond encrusted rings like Eminem got old um Elton John, huh? No, I was thinking cock, but well, yeah, but that's what Eminem got Elton John. Oh, are they are they married? No, uh-uh. When Elton John got married, Eminem sent him and his uh partner, whatever you want to call it. Oh they sent them both uh diamond encrusted cock rings. Was it like an insul or was it like no, it was uh because everybody had that crap fit here, what, 10 years ago? Crap shit fit, because Elton John and Eminem did a thing together, like, oh, Eminem's a uh homophobe and everything else like that. And they got along great. And so for a wedding gift, that's what Eminem got. Uh Elton John and his partner.

SPEAKER_03

I think that's cute.

SPEAKER_01

I think it is too. I mean speaking of cute and Eminem.

SPEAKER_03

Have I shown you the picture of Eminem's butt? Yes. Have I? I did. Yeah, so funny. The things I inflict on you.

SPEAKER_01

That's okay. I'm I'm used to it.

SPEAKER_04

It's got a nice butt.

SPEAKER_01

Um I did six years in the navy.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Uh did you have you found your zippo yet? Bite me. Uh-huh. But uh, so no, I'm gonna go with no. Um no, I haven't. But it's not just let's, you know, since you brought up the name, it's not just a zippo, right? Like it's it's lost, and it will it will turn up because it always does on like the chains. But no, what's the tell people about the lighter? It's cool.

SPEAKER_01

Um do you want how far do you want me to go back?

SPEAKER_03

What's on the lighter? You know, it's not just a lighter.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's a zippo lighter that I got when I was in the navy. It's uh excuse me. It's got an F-A-18 on it, because that's one of the aircraft I worked on, and it says uh VFA 15 Valians, because that that's the squadron I was in was VFA 15.

SPEAKER_03

Right, on that uh on that frigate.

SPEAKER_01

Uh no, that's that's the squadron and I was on an aircraft carrier.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. God dang. I tried to smart ass you right now. Of course it was. Not when it comes to the Navy. Well, no, and I mean I think I should know better about the aircrafts. Yeah, no, yeah, aircraft carrier. Um, okay, I'll try the the the frigate guided missile destroyer dig another time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um I actually spent a day on a frigate.

SPEAKER_01

I won't do that again. You served on a frigate. No, I was on an uh Aegis class cruiser. Right away.

SPEAKER_03

Here we are. It's not an Aegis class. First of all, the Aegis class is not a cruiser, it's a guided missile destroyer. So it can't there's no such thing as an Aegis class cruiser. Okay. We're not gonna fight. Yeah, your ship was called the Leyte Golf, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, Leyte Golf. That's there's a cool story to that one too.

SPEAKER_03

About the name of it?

SPEAKER_01

About the name of it. Okay. Uh after I got back from my first long cruise, um on the I was on the uh the CG-55, the the Leyte Golf, uh, right after I got home, my grandfather had a stroke. And so I had my two weeks leave, so I went home, helped take care of him. Well, he couldn't get his levies any on anymore because of the stroke, half of him was paralyzed. So I had a pair of sweats that said uh USS Laytay Golf on him. And my grandfather seen those, and he's like, I there, I there, I there, and I didn't get it, what he was talking about, eye there. And he to some effect sounds like he's speaking your vocabulary. Yeah, yeah. I should have got it. But come to find out, he was in the battle of the late golf when he was in World War II. Oh shit. Yeah, so that it was really cool. I still have the sweats. Uh I actually seen him here not too long ago when I was going through my stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Wow, that was really cool.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yep, it is.

Navy Stories And Ship Class Confusion

SPEAKER_03

Um there was uh I'm trying to remember the details on because we did it get into a bit of uh an argument one night about the the classification of the late golf because you said it was an aegis class destroyer, and I said no fucking way. Or no, I'm sorry, you said Aegis class cruiser, and I'm like, no, uh Aegis class uh is only a uh destroyer. Um and then I was like, and also uh cruiser is not a guided missile destroyer, but whatever. And there was something about like they renamed it or they reclassified that particular ship or something as a guided missile cruiser, something, right? And then like we ended up it was one of those things where we ended up both sort of being right. Yeah, which I don't like that. Um because then you get part of it. Excuse me. Yeah, the Aegis um uh the Aegis destroyers uh are named uh uh after the radar and targeting system. Correct. Yeah, the Aegis uh system. And so um they were the ones that super Yeah, they're the ones that superseded the I think the Ticonderogos. Uh I'll tell you one thing you don't want to fuck with. Uh oh no, I'm sorry, not Aegis. Uh I was thinking Arlie Burke. Um so the Arlie Burke Destroyer is the class that superseded the Ticonderoga, right? Sure. Okay. Uh the Arlie Burke is the destroyers we have in service now. Um the guy guided missile destroyers. Okay. Really any guided missile destroyer. That's yeah, that's a pretty uh pretty incredible platform. Did you ever watch that show The Last Ship? I know we've talked about that. No, I haven't watched that one. Uh you should watch it. Um, especially since Christina's out of town for a little bit. The last shit. Last it was a real doozy. It's a hell of a push. The last shit. Oh. What would that even be? Just like three seasons of constipation and here it comes.

SPEAKER_01

Y'all y'all scared to remember, I worked on so when I was on the late golf, I I worked on uh Helos, SH60 Helos. The uh Seahawks. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Which is the same, are very pretty same platform, not exactly the same, same platform, same helicopter as the Blackhawks. Right. But the Seahawks are the the Navy and Marine version, right?

SPEAKER_01

Right. And you know the the difference between the the army or the marine one or whatever and the navy ones? Uh one's called a Seahawk, one's called a Blackhawk. The tail, the tailwheel on the Seahawk is actually positioned more forward on the fuselage. That makes sense. So deck space. Yeah, so that when you recover uh on the raft system, it doesn't put as much pressure on the the tail. On the what system?

SPEAKER_03

The RAST. Oh yeah. Oh, which is the arresting system. Right.

SPEAKER_01

The cable, right? No, well, yeah, it has the thing that comes down, then the RAST system will grab it, we'll squeeze onto it. Are you talking about on the the destroyer or on the carrier?

SPEAKER_03

On the destroyer. Yeah, okay. Yeah, because they have those little did yeah, so they had Helos on the on the Leyte Golf as well. Yeah, we had two of them. Yeah, same with Arlie Burke. They got a deck on the back and two little hangers. Um that's pretty cool. Yeah, the last shit. Look it up. The last shit. It's actually it it's you know, as as uh let's say Oscar level entertainment goes, it's you know, it's not there. But it's a r it's a really fun show. Um it's something it's kind of the mindless fun shit that you know you and I really like. Okay, I'll look into it. Yeah. Yeah. Now uh uh you and I are problem solvers. Sure. Yes. Okay. Sure. No, sure, sure. I'm saying yes to sure. I'm agreeing with sure. Um we I mean, we fancy ourselves problem solvers. Uh just before we uh came into the studio to record this, I was uh I was uh texting with uh my buddy Brian, who I've told you a lot about.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yes, you have.

SPEAKER_03

And uh he he has a big problem, and uh I thought uh maybe we could help him work through this major life problem he has.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I'm always better at everybody else's problems than my own. Same.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So uh should we should we call him?

SPEAKER_01

Well let's let's give him a holler.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I he very well may be busy. I don't know. We'll just we'll see what uh I'll just be quiet and you start. Oh I'm yeah, I'll definitely start it. It would be super weird. Well if you start it, that'd be weird, right? Yeah. Can you hear that? Yep. No, you're probably not. Oh hey buddy, how's it going?

SPEAKER_02

Good, how are you?

SPEAKER_03

I'm great. Uh you if uh if you're busy or whatever, that's cool. But you're uh on with Mark on on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01

How are we doing, Brian? I don't do well, gentlemen yourselves. Oh, gentlemen, he doesn't even know me. Giving you the benefit of the doubt.

SPEAKER_03

It's not gonna take very long. Um we've we were um I was I was sort of telling Mark about your gym dilemma, and uh because it's just so you and so me. Like you have two uh well, why don't you what what's got what's the problem? What's this big problem in your life?

SPEAKER_02

Well the the problem is essentially this there is a gym that is more expensive but is walking distance from my house, or there's one that is much cheaper, and that requires me to actually like drive like two and a half, three miles and annoying myself and my motivation. I'm like, I should probably just do the more expensive one, otherwise I'm not gonna go.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, because why would you drive to a gym when you could walk to a gym? Exactly. Yeah, so that's that's my problem solved, hang up.

SPEAKER_03

I think that only is applicable if you're walking so a certain distance. Like if you're walking across the street, no, here's what here's how you would solve the problem is if you walked to the gym that's like three miles away and then worked out, or just turn around and walk back.

SPEAKER_01

Walk back, don't even pay. It's all free.

SPEAKER_03

Uh let's back up for a second. So um this is Mark. Uh you've you've heard me talk a lot about Mark, and Mark's heard me or uh I've told him a lot about you as well. Um but for the people listening, you know, the three or two three or four of them, uh let's Bri Brian is one of my oldest I've actually known him longer than you, Mark, if you can believe that. Oh wow. Mm-hmm. And I was thinking about the uh uh when do we meet? Two thousand four, Brian?

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, no. No.

SPEAKER_02

I was still I think it was twenty.

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_03

Twenty?

Seahawks vs Blackhawks On Deck

SPEAKER_02

Actually, maybe not. Maybe not. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Twenty twenty? That was only six years ago. Oh, but you were age of twenty. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. No, maybe.

SPEAKER_04

Well.

SPEAKER_02

Well, when did I I wrapped up U of A at uh winter 2003, I think.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Um, and I Yeah, no. Oh, I where where was I living?

SPEAKER_02

I think we had one semester overlap.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Where was I living when we met?

SPEAKER_02

Uh yes.

SPEAKER_03

That would have yeah, that was three that was three or four. So what's that, twenty-two, twenty-three years?

SPEAKER_04

Jesus, yeah. Fuck yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03

I just feel like it just hit me too.

SPEAKER_01

Let's give him a moment, Finley.

SPEAKER_03

Um, it's funny because Mark is he's not that much older than us. Um 10 years, 12 years older than me, right, Mark? Yeah. Yeah. So he's well into like he's getting he's like, I'm old. I'm just old. One of the things with me and Brian, we're like in this phase where we're grappling with the fact that oh man, we're getting fucking old.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, my mind says I'm old. Or my mind says I'm young, my body says, what the hell? That's why I don't go to the gym.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's those first 10 to 15 minutes after waking up where you just feel all the pain.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's why they have Advil for old people.

SPEAKER_03

It's gotta be more than that. Um or you know, everything hurts, and then some days you wake up and just like one thing hurts really bad. You're like, God, look at my what did I do to my arm? Like for no reason, right? I'll give you I'll give you props though, Brian, going back to the gym. That's uh I'm I respect it. Well, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Uh because you're uh a lot like me, I think, in this regard. It's like you don't like doing things. No, not at all. That's the worst. Well, uh so your dilemma. Um, here's what I think is fun about your dilemma. This has been going on for like three months. Oh shit. Right.

SPEAKER_02

Right? Brian? Uh accurate. Accurate.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to the procrastination club.

SPEAKER_03

It's I mean uh, you know, it's I think Brian, tell me if if I'm wrong. But I think in this case it's it's a little bit of that, and it's more just like uh inner turmoil in your brain about oh god, what if I pick the wrong one?

SPEAKER_02

It's that, and like to add further compound the problem, there's a free gym at work, but I just don't want to do that because I don't want to spend more time at work.

SPEAKER_03

So there's a secret third option. I didn't even know that. That's not a third option to be stay at work longer. Yeah, well, and to be you work a lot too, Brian, already.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so it's just I just don't want to be at the building longer than I have to, so this is actually a decent getaway.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, is it did you go to one of the you went to the gym tonight?

SPEAKER_02

Uh did you go to one of the uh the last three days we got a free pass, so I've gone the last three days every day.

SPEAKER_03

To which one? The close one or the further one?

SPEAKER_02

The close one. I haven't done the further one yet.

SPEAKER_03

Did you walk to the close one? I did each time.

SPEAKER_01

So I can't be friends with him. Well, he's got a mission.

SPEAKER_02

It's I did I did consider driving one day, but I'm like, no, that would be ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Uh I I was just giving Mark a compliment out on the deck, like, oh, you're standing up. I've never seen you do that. Is something wrong?

SPEAKER_01

I'm fluffy and my knees hurt. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Um, so did you uh understand that you've only tried one of the two? Like, what are your thoughts on on the closed one?

SPEAKER_02

It's not bad. It is not as phenomenal as you would necessarily think for the uh monthly price, but it's solid.

SPEAKER_03

Uh isn't the monthly price zero dollars? I thought you were getting it for free.

SPEAKER_01

Three-day pr pass. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Wait, I thought there was whoa. I thought you had a voucher or something, but for these two, am I confused?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, for you, correct. But it's just if I decide to go with it, if I have to consider like cost and amenities, correct? It is free for anything.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, it's right.

SPEAKER_02

So he's uh is it like through work or something that you're or through your through yeah, it's uh like through insurance they offer a third-party discount program.

Phoning Brian About The Gym Choice

SPEAKER_03

There you go. So that's part of the equation here, Mark, is uh price is not a factor.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's true. Um, I'd go with Planet Fitness. They uh pizza nights and donut nights. It's the only time I ever showed up.

SPEAKER_03

It's so perfect that you said that because what was like the last what one of the texts you just sent me, Brian, about Planet Fitness.

SPEAKER_02

So but yeah, they're they're being sued because they actually make it virtually impossible to cancel in August of 2025. A suit was filed because they're just like people are basically directed to not process your cancellations or make it impossible for you to do so.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I've I've heard that. I I I feel like I'd I've I've done the smart thing and just never signed up for a gym. Um so I'll I'll tell you my thought on on this whole gym thing is uh I think my first instinct would be go with the close one because it's close and easy. But then I feel like because it's close and easy, I would never go. Because it would always be just like, oh, I'll do that in a couple minutes. I'll do that in a couple minutes, it'll never happen.

SPEAKER_02

Because if you have to I feel the cost will guilt me into that to help circumvent that part, despite the closeness.

SPEAKER_03

What what will guilt you into it?

SPEAKER_02

The cost.

SPEAKER_03

Isn't it zero dollars?

SPEAKER_02

No, if I if I sign up in earnest, it would be uh 68 a month.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, I'm so confused about this.

SPEAKER_02

That is so taxes cigarettes.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it's the sub Yeah, see. You've heard of that thing called a spectrum, and opposite ends of it, here we are. Uh brands on one way.

SPEAKER_02

The close option is$68. Uh LA Fitness is$28, the work gym is free.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so it's a they they give you a disco it's like a subsidy.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. Not free. Wow. Now, would you just go after work so you could drive by to the the cheaper gym, or would you go home and get ready to go to the gym? Oh good question.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I've done both at this point, and actually they're both equally convenient because I mean they're just yeah, walking distance, so walking.

SPEAKER_03

Would you uh I think that I think that's actually a really good question, Mark, because again, it's a it's like m the point I'm getting at is like whether it's intentional or not, right? Right. It's like if you can just walk out the front door and walk to it, you don't really have to think about it that much. Uh and for me means I would never do it. But so are you gonna um and I know obviously we're not good at solving problems, so we're we're as good at solving other people's problems. Not so not so far. Uh don't go. Oh. Yeah, but we should I I'm proud of I'm respect it. Like just because we are lazy people who do not like have horrible lifestyles, we should not just encourage that for others.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I respect anybody that's willing to go to the gym, especially three days in a row.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I used to be with this until about 2023, and then I kind of tapered off.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it well two things. One, was it in a row? You threw it. Oh my gosh, I who that's a lot. Um, and yeah, the other thing is yeah, kind of like you and Mark uh or sorry, you and me, Mark, Brian and I have been in and out of touch over, you know, ever since I left Tucson many, many years ago. And just about cutting two and a half years ago, we really reconnected. And yeah, I remember at that point you were like really into the gym and everything, and I'm like, oh my god, our lives have gone in such different directions. I'm just a fat slob and I don't want to do anything, and you have a great job and you're working out. Oh god, now I realize that as soon as he started talking to me, he stopped going to the gym. Fuck I ruined everybody's life.

SPEAKER_01

Not just your own.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god. Uh oh, uh I by the way, incidentally, I should mention for the for the listener, hopefully, um, that you, you sir, or uh you you helped pick the name of this podcast.

SPEAKER_02

Uh yes, that I did.

SPEAKER_03

Which I'm assuming that you haven't yet listened to.

SPEAKER_02

I I I've only been able to listen to a snippet, I've not been able to listen to the full episode.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I I hear you. It's uh well the thing is, and I talk I I get that because you don't listen to podcasts. Like, you know. Um It's okay, Brian.

SPEAKER_01

Neither do I.

SPEAKER_03

He doesn't. It's we talked about this a couple episodes ago. I'm like, do you think it's weird that like you're hosting a podcast where you've never listened, you've never heard one?

SPEAKER_01

I heard sit on your ass and talk. And I'm like, I'm in.

SPEAKER_03

I'm down. Are there are are there cats? Are there sodas? Yep, cool. Yep. How well let me ask you this. Uh, how long how long is your workout?

SPEAKER_02

Uh about 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_03

Oh boy. Perfect. What what do you listen to music when you're working out? Do I just I'm gonna throw this out there. Our episodes are just about 45 minutes, so so I just need to transition to set and center.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Uh look, I don't wanna uh coerce you into follow being a follower. No, I'm just it it it's not you know, podcasts aren't for everybody, and I'll be honest, they're hard to get into. Uh Mark, bless his heart. He even tried to listen to Anne Podcast um at some point after we had started recording the podcast. Yeah. I think like a half an episode. So but yeah, uh, I certainly appreciate you picking up the phone tonight because I'm sure as soon as you saw my name, you knew what was coming, even though I didn't tell you we were gonna call you.

SPEAKER_01

Well, did we help him solve his uh dilemma at all?

SPEAKER_03

I think we just wasted 15 minutes of his time.

SPEAKER_01

The question is, do they both do they both have free Wi-Fi? Uh oh gosh, I didn't even check it out.

SPEAKER_03

He doesn't Brian lives in the city.

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Oh.

SPEAKER_03

So everywhere he goes, his phone has internet. I'm like right.

SPEAKER_01

That's true. I was just thinking it's gotta have Wi-Fi so I can just sit there the whole time and take a poop.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're really selling the whole you should listen to this podcast thing there, Mark.

SPEAKER_01

Good lord. Well, if you'd extend all this into the bathroom, I'd be good playing on my phone and doing a podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Look, there's a reason that I got a certain length of microphone cable. Because you have to be restricted in some capacity. This is true. Yeah. Um, well, uh thanks for thanks for fucking around with us a little bit. Uh absolutely. I'll let you I'll let you go. Um I uh you what do you do for a I was I talk about this all the time. It's just absolutely fascinating. Just before we let you go, tell tell tell everybody what you do for a living.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I work in digital forensics as uh primarily computer examinations.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's super, super interesting stuff. Um you know, I I just love hearing about it. Um and so maybe someday we can bring you in uh you know well when we need consulting on some ranch tech. Like, you know what? Let's call BJ.

SPEAKER_02

I'm game.

SPEAKER_03

Cool. Coat. All right, but uh well, have a good night. I'll probably dice with you here in a little bit.

SPEAKER_02

Awesome. Thanks, folks. Bye. Take care.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he's a super, super good, uh, cool guy. Um, once again, we need help. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

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SPEAKER_03

Go to the go to the further away one. The number of times that uh uh during the helping him that I forgot that we were supposed to be helping him. Uh so he um I'll tell you just another really cool thing, is he m my mom because you know he's in Arizona, my family's in Arizona, he because my mom's really interested in like true crime and all that kind of stuff, and he actually once he figured once he learned that he uh he set up for her a whole uh almost day-long tour at their uh crime lab.

SPEAKER_01

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and she got to see all the different things, like his his area of digital forensics and then you know, like uh the firearms area where they do forensics on the bull, you know, just the DNA stuff. It was super super cool. Um, and she she talks about it a lot, and uh he was a he was an absolute gentleman um to do that, and she had a great time and I loved hearing about it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that'd be great.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Um they probably wouldn't let us into a crime lab.

SPEAKER_01

No, especially digital, they'd be like, Can we have your phone? No, no, God, no. No, burn it. Yeah, throw that away. I'd sooner burn it than let anybody open that thing. That's I got a thing with my kid. If if anything happens to me, he takes my phone and gets rid of it. If anything happens to him, he I take his phone and get rid of it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the dead man switch.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Uh yeah, that's I I get ya. It's like people people should not have to see what's going on in my phone. Nobody should have to deal with it. Yeah. Um last episode, well, a few it was several episodes ago, I think, but we were we were talking about your uh well, the winter storm and the you lost power and it was cold and everything, and you saw it reprieve in your truck. Yes. And just why don't you recap for the audience?

SPEAKER_01

So anyway, I was sitting out there not the whole thing. Yeah, that I was sitting out there in my truck, got no heat. So I think it was the next day Ryan came over, we talked about it. So I'd already put antifreeze in it, still blew cold. Ryan came over to the ranch and got some more antifreeze, put it in there, still blew it cold. And then that was yesterday. And then so this morning or this afternoon, he texted and said, Hey, got some time, always got time. So he came over and I was telling him about what I thought it was, and he's like, Well, I talked to my guy, and this is what he came up with. And so he ended up being an air pocket in the in the line in the lines are in the the block where you actually had to squeeze the top radiator hose and let the uh air bubbles go into the reservoir.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, well, uh there's a little more to it than that. Um we had to drive it onto an incline first.

SPEAKER_01

That's true, and there's not very many inclines around here.

SPEAKER_03

No, and that's that's not a very uh wasn't a very like interesting detail for me to add. It's like, well, also you had to drive it up a little mound.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But it worked. I didn't I didn't realize how much air those suckers held.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, um, right, and it and it did work. Although uh uh we earlier um I was like, well, let's just scan it for shits, right? Yep. Uh and I'm gonna give you this code right now. Uh it's uh B100. Well I'm holding Finley, so B1066 uh colon zero zero-eight. And what it says, well then what it says here is air distribution damper motor. So even though it's heating now, uh maybe there's there might be something else in there to take a look at.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'll look that up.

SPEAKER_03

And then speaking of uh Finley, uh we did talk about him uh a few episodes ago, but uh you know, some uh a thing about him uh is he has he has seizures sometimes. And he's had it his whole life. He's uh he's like eight. Um and we don't know why, and they're not that often. I would say all things being equal about once a month. Um though when there's a lot of excitement and stuff, it it tends to tends to happen. And we were that's what I'm giving Mark the number the code right now is we were in the middle of scanning it and finally uh he had jumped in the truck because he loves trucks. So he was sitting in the driver's seat and he went right into a seizure. Um and it's like a 10 or 15 minute thing, and he just a poor little guy, it just breaks your heart. But um, there's nothing you can do about it, it doesn't do any permanent damage. Um you just kinda help him ride it out. So uh Mark grabbed him um and held him. Well, I th I was finishing the scan and then um and then we came in, so we didn't have a chance to look it up, but uh yeah, we'll see what happens with that. And these these I don't know. I I I hate the seizures, it sucks, it sucks for him. But uh I will say once you know, once you've gotten used to it, I don't know, did it scare like did it kind of freak you out the first time you saw it happen?

SPEAKER_01

A little bit, yes. Yeah, because I wasn't I wasn't expecting it. I mean you talked about it with him and stuff, and yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and and his are a little different um than most because it goes on for a while a long time. Yeah, usually seizures are pretty short, and so yeah, it's it just break your heart. Um, but the best thing to do uh that I've learned through experience, uh unfortunately Milo had seizures. Did I tell you that? Ever tell you that?

SPEAKER_01

No, he never told me that one.

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SPEAKER_03

He similar similar frequency, you know, like once his were about like once every three weeks, and uh although his I do know what what his were caused by, which was uh he had a head trauma when he was pretty young, which I'll circle back to that. But um, so anyway, point being uh best thing you can do is just pick him up, hold him, and comfort him, and ride it out, you know, make sure he doesn't flop around and hurt himself, and just go about your business. Um because you know, he just needs some comfort and some calm. And so if you start, oh my god, blah blah blah, it makes it worse.

SPEAKER_01

So now he's sitting over here on my lap just getting cuddles and snoring.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yeah. So like Mark, anybody who's been you know spent time on the ranch, they know that. So it's just like oh, he's having a seizure. Mark's like, okay, I'll grab him, blah blah blah. And then we went and sat down and just we just kept talking doing our thing. Um, and that's the best thing for it.

SPEAKER_01

Um because I didn't want you to stop to scan on my truck. Right.

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SPEAKER_03

I'm I'm sitting here like trying to make you sound like a decent person, and then Oh, the anybody that knows me knows I'm not a decent person. Yeah. Uh I'll tell you uh Milo's thing though. Um uh Milo of Milo fame, um, when he was he probably had to have been about three or four, he had just gotten Oakley and Oakley He was not hardly young, but he was he was I don't know, six, eight months. And uh they used to do a thing when people would like come in the front door where they'd run and they'd like jump on the back of the couch and wait for him, and so uh somebody had come on the front door and Milo ran up on the back of the couch and Oakley did the same thing, but he was kind of you know, a little bit puppy, a little bit clumsy, and he just clean knocked Milo off the back of the couch, and it's it's key. It's only funny for a second because he fell on his head on his skull onto a hardwood floor. Oh and went right into a seizure, which I had never experienced before with the dog, and it was really scary. I bet. He came out of it about ten minutes later, uh, and then oh my dad was there, that's what it was. Um then like okay, I guess he's fine, seems okay now. And then the next day he went into another one just randomly, like shit, oh my god. Oh shit. Took him to the emergency vet. And uh Yeah. Basically by the time we got there, of course it was over, and she gave me the whole spiel. There's nothing you can do, it doesn't hurt him. I don't know. Uh there are there are medications you can put him on for it at the time. The only option they had was uh phenobarbital. Uh for a lot of reasons, but uh they came out with better ones eventually. And uh ultimately he did end up having to be put on a med in the last like five or six years of the life. And boy, what a thing. Um it was called Zonisomide. Anybody listening who has a dog who has seizures, um, if you're looking for something, I'll forget about this. Um I I'll tell you that Milo had had seizures for uh six years, whatever, very consistently. From the second I gave him that first pill until the day that I lost him. Seven years later, something seizure. And no side effects at all. Um and I'll say this again for anybody listening. My vet told me at the time that like this is one of those things that's got almost like no side effects is very, very effective when it is. But it's only effective for you know a certain percentage of the dogs. I think uh it's not like gonna work for all of them, but it was a godsend, an absolute godsend. So I guess I did.

SPEAKER_01

I could have blamed it on Finley, but he's damn it's on the floor.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, he's on the floor, yeah. Yep. Um Well, if you can believe it, um that's the end of that's the end of this uh this show. Huh.

SPEAKER_01

That's that went quick. I sure did. I hear it every time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's like you were quick. Uh well. Uh well, uh it's been a blast. We'll catch y'all later. Have a good one.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, it's Mark here at Set and Centered. Uh just want to let everybody know that if they want to catch us on the socials, you can catch us at our webpage, setcenter.live, or on Facebook at SetCenterLive. Uh we'll maybe post some little stupid videos that we've done, stuff like that as we keep on going. And also we talk a lot about the animals here on the ranch. And you can we'll post pictures of them. We'll see how it goes. Let us know. Have a good one.

SPEAKER_00

It always shows we're setting center, kind of sorta, maybe. Holding it together with zip ties, baby. Dogs in the dirt, giving side eye shade. Laughing through the mess that we just made. Yeah, we said it's centered, but the world's off track. If it's broke, it's up. You can count on that sockets gone, wind blows, gate won't latch. Two boxes open like a raccoon got snatched. Coffee cold, temp, high sweatin', regret, still talking like we got it. You bet we take a breath, then we jump back in. Same two clowns, same old grim, we stepped still a kind of sort of baby. Holding it together, we zip ties, baby. Dogs in the dirt, giving side eyes jade, laughing through the mess we just made. Yeah, we're dead and centered, but the world's off track. Broke it stuck. You can count that break time, yell it all unwind. Thousand dogs judging with that thousand-yard mind. Project list is long, but we'll get that soon. That's a lie, but it's a good tone. We said it's in a kind of sort of maybe held together by stubborn and a little crazy. You're still listening to one of the pack now. Back to the chaos. Here we go.