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European In The Fish Tank
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We bring Rob on from Arizona and immediately get hit with peak brother energy, tech chaos, and a fish tank that sounds way too much like a bathroom. Along the way we check on Maggie, relive listener nicknames, argue about a movie quote poll, and somehow end up on AI actors and online privacy.
In this episode:
• Maggie update and small routine changes that help
• Rob’s long teased full guest appearance and instant technical drama
• Cindy’s comments plus the origin of “The Tinkler”
• The “Nobody Puts Baby In A Corner” poll and why Mark gets salty
• Arizona heat vs everyone else’s weather bragging rights
• Val Kilmer and the idea of an AI generated performance
• Debating action stars and what even counts as acting
• Star Trek cast music rabbit hole and surprising deep cuts
• A Smithsonian connected portrait story and tracking down the artist
• Europe travel talk and the toilets debate
• Browser pop ups plus device cleanup when you borrow a computer
• Incognito mode myths and what real privacy tools do
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Welcome Back And Maggie Update
SPEAKER_00Hey everybody, welcome back to Set and Centered. I'm RJ.
SPEAKER_02I'm Mark.
SPEAKER_00How's it going, Mark?
SPEAKER_02I'm doing good. How are you doing, sir?
SPEAKER_00Not so bad. Uh, we have finally he's clawed his way onto the show. Rob is joining us live from Arizona.
SPEAKER_02Hey everyone. Welcome. How you doing, Rob? Hey Mark, how you doing, bud? Good. I'd like to say I miss you, but I don't. Feelings mutual, I guess. Got it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Dang. It's right out the gate, huh?
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Uh, yeah. So first things first, Mark. How's Maggie doing?
SPEAKER_02Yes. Maggie's doing fine. Uh, we're giving her more time in the uh when she first wakes up to get ready to move, you know, without trying to move her. And then right after she drinks or eats, like I talked about, she we make sure she goes outside. But other than that, she seems to have sprung back a little bit, which makes my life happy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's great. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah. Um, which was, I think, very considerate of me to just ask about that right off the top, but also kind of rude to not even spend any time introducing our guests.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's like they didn't, they don't they don't care about our guests, they like his son better.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean, he did set a pretty high bar.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the stats really show that. Yeah, everybody mentions it.
SPEAKER_00Who's everybody? Is this like a Trump thing? Oh, people people are talking about it.
SPEAKER_02You know it, I know it. Everybody knows it. All seven people in my head. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a real bunch of sons of bitches in there. Um, yeah. Yeah, so Rob is my brother Rob, uh who's I think he's been name checked on pretty much every episode. If you're if you're familiar with the podcast and you listen uh regularly, then um you're probably familiar with Rob. But for those who aren't, um he uh it's my younger brother who lives in Arizona. Um I think he's peeing right now. What the fuck is that?
SPEAKER_02I think so too. I was gonna ask a fish tank. It's a fish tank. Good God. Jesus Christ. He's filling the fish tank. Well, get that off the table real fast. Yeah, well, yeah, he's over there filling the fish tank. It must be a low fish tank with the height of Rob.
SPEAKER_03It is looking pretty low right now. Oh, come on, man.
SPEAKER_00Oof. Oof. Oof. Um, yeah, I was I'm glad it's a fish tank. I was gonna say, at least, you know, I'm a professional, so at least I have the decency to just upend the whole show and just stop having it for like five minutes at a time whenever I need to pee.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. Uh, and just to mention on that one, uh, did you see Cindy's comment on our YouTube?
Rob Joins And The Fish Tank Panic
SPEAKER_00Uh I I can't get out of it. She's just can't get out of my head that he's it really sound why does it sound like that?
SPEAKER_02I thought fish tanks made like unplug it, Rob.
SPEAKER_00Are the fish gonna die?
SPEAKER_02Oh no, they just they'll be fine without air for a little bit.
SPEAKER_00What is oh, it's an air thingy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's the it's the air when the water comes in, I think with that one maybe through the back, then it it drops down into the tank, but it's low, so then it gives you the toilet effect.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. Okay, so yes, I was just looking for a yes or no, thanks. Um I don't know how to do that. Yeah, I know. Yeah, Cindy. Are you still there, Rob?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I just made it worse. It's it's way worse.
SPEAKER_00I was like, is this I was thinking, is the microphone connected to the the fish tank? And he turned that off and dropped his audio.
SPEAKER_02He's got it set up on the toilet tank. He's he's backwards facing on the toilet right now.
SPEAKER_03That's my debut. I gotta speak from the throne, bro.
SPEAKER_02Oh, jeez.
SPEAKER_03Um I thought you said from the throat.
SPEAKER_00That's what I thought he said too. What did you say?
SPEAKER_03Throne. No, the throne. Throne where Elvis died.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh. Um he actually fell off. Jesus Christ. I was trying to do an introduction here. Okay. So oh yeah. Uh so younger brother lives in Arizona, peas boys on podcast. Um he he's uh I will say that he's been a huge fan of the podcast from the beginning. Um, very supportive of it. He's listened to every episode, and I when I say that about Rob, it's true, unlike his son, who's a liar. He's like, Oh yeah, I totally listen to all of them, and they're great. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Did you get through that one, Robbie? Which one? Which one? When does mine err?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Have you heard the theme the theme song? Uh yeah, I heard it a long time ago. Oh, okay, it's at the end of every episode that you always okay. Oh, yeah, the B movie. Um but no, uh seriously, like Rob's been uh very supportive and very interested, and uh have to give him props and um say thanks because in the in the very beginning he gave us some very uh good constructive feedback. Um which uh we think that's not what you said. What did I okay, what what did I say?
SPEAKER_02He said that little fucking brother of mine has nothing but complaints about this thing and that we need to change stuff.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well I mean potato tomato, okay.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, but he he that's in the beginning, but as soon as he has to ruminate or at least digest it for a little bit, and then he's like comes to his senses. Unlike you, Mark, who has taken obviously none of my advice. Yep. No, why would I take your advice? You don't know what you feel about podcasting, right?
SPEAKER_02No, but as soon as you can look me eye to eye, then we'll talk. All right, when you're in your casket, we'll we'll have a chat, okay?
SPEAKER_03Oh god.
SPEAKER_02Uh that'll be that'll be next week, buddy.
SPEAKER_00Um Rob, so you're clearly not a professional podcaster like like Mark. You need to keep a consistent distance with that mic, bud.
SPEAKER_03Oh, my bad.
SPEAKER_00You're going back and forth and back and forth, and it's fucked, you know. But you're yeah, hey, it's all part of the learning process.
SPEAKER_03He's rocking back and forth. Can we scrap this one, boys, and start over?
SPEAKER_00Uh nope.
SPEAKER_03No, uh-uh.
SPEAKER_00We don't we don't we don't do that. It's like if it's if the episode is just terrible in a total tailspin, it's just like, well, grab a shoot or something, I'll see what we can do. We're in it. All right, so yep, that's Rob. But I mean he's wanted to be on it for a long time. Um, and actually, uh this is the first time you're on it for a full episode. So I I I I I went to put together a clip, like kind of a clip reel of all your time on the podcast before. Um, and then I went to uh export it as an audio file and there wasn't enough duration of audio to make an audio file.
SPEAKER_03So I'll be honest, I was I was I had a little bit of a uh a voice in the back of my head saying he might pull another fast one on you, buddy, preparing for like the last hour and a half for this whole thing for you to go, all right, and that's the show.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we that was uh original. Yeah, we we certainly talked about that. Uh but what do you mean? Hold on, preparing for an hour and a half. This is interesting. So uh you you prepare more than Mark ever has for any show. Um so what did you prepare? Like notes, a bio?
SPEAKER_03As soon as I got off the phone call from you asking if I had the availability to be on the podcast tonight, I immediately ran through the house screaming at everybody, saying, All right, we got a DEF CON 4 guys, like it's time, you know, like D-Day is here, and we're about to storm Normandy, so I'm pushing the kids down on the ground, getting out of my way. I'm trying to get Robbie's computer fired up. It was uh it was a bit of an ordeal.
SPEAKER_02So you're uh Yeah, you can really tell we're interested. I am Jesus.
SPEAKER_00That's I I'm interested, Mark.
SPEAKER_02Jeez, I was just I just can't believe that he had pushed down Kai.
SPEAKER_00He didn't. It's called a it's called a joke.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh I don't get those.
SPEAKER_00Uh you don't make them either.
SPEAKER_03Got him.
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah, it's called a joke. Uh your jokes are like, well, I'm just gonna say a movie clip whenever they're silenced.
SPEAKER_02Oh, do we want to talk about movie clips there, uh, Mr. Oh fuck.
SPEAKER_00Well, hold on. Let's sure I'd love to. I'm not sure which ones you're talking about, but I'd love to. But let's go back to what you said before. Yes, about Cindy's comment.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, Cindy uh said that we now need to call it uh a new name. RJ and Mark and Mr. Tinkles.
SPEAKER_03Is that me? Am I Mr. Tinkles? Oh no, it's RJ. Yeah, RJ's Mr. Tinker. It's RJ's take it back to it.
SPEAKER_00Wait, yeah, did you not listen to the latest episode yet?
SPEAKER_03I was listening to it. Yeah, I was listening to it uh as I was waiting desperately for you to send me the link.
SPEAKER_00That was part of your preparation. Yeah, hour and a half to get to get caught up.
SPEAKER_03I'm a consummate professional, boys.
SPEAKER_00Yes, you are. Did you did you finish it?
SPEAKER_03Uh uh No. Okay, well, like 10 minutes left. I got like 10 minutes. Come on.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no. It's uh I'm actually uh I'm not putting you on the spot so much as uh did you get to the part about Maggie yet?
SPEAKER_03Yes, I did. That that was the more important thing because I read the description. I see and so I was kind of fast forwarding through the boring Mark talking parts and then uh got to the important Maggie piece.
SPEAKER_00There you go. Okay, so yeah, that's that's why I wanted to ask about her right off the bat. Um uh so yeah, she Cindy said Cindy said, Glad you got the new Mar Newman thing figured out. She said, I'm a sucker for a good Swayze movie. And then she said set and centered featuring RJ Markin' special appearance, The Tinkler.
SPEAKER_02The Tinkler. Okay, so I fucked it up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you did. And also, um I you know, I love Cindy, I love her comments. She's far and away the most engaged uh listener we have. Um she didn't come up with the tinkler, you did, don't you remember that?
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, because every time you take a break and leave me alone, I just talk about it. Well yeah, tinkler and everything else.
SPEAKER_00Not every time. The last time you said uh the last time you said uh you said marking the tinkler.
SPEAKER_02I don't remember that, but okay. All right, well I'll take it.
SPEAKER_00Read the transcript of your own show, maybe. I don't know what to tell you.
SPEAKER_03He doesn't even listen to it when he talks about it.
SPEAKER_00He barely even does it.
SPEAKER_02I turn it on to for Maggie to listen to since she can't hear.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's good because I put her Yeah, well, I guess I was gonna say put her to sleep according to the vodka queen. Um Jesus. What?
SPEAKER_02Oh well, and yeah, that and then uh Cindy said that she had a nickname for herself, but I don't know if we should really use it.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna let um that's that's up to you, man. I mean, I don't know her. It's tequila tits. Oh god. Oh, we definitely should use it. I mean, we it's been used because I don't edit, but I mean it's there now, but oh I love that. Tequila tits.
SPEAKER_03You only know who the next guest is gonna be.
SPEAKER_00Your wife? Yeah. Your wife. Or are you talking Brian's wife?
SPEAKER_03Tequila tits.
SPEAKER_00Oh, tequila tits. Uh yeah, yeah. Oh, Brian's listening to the podcast now. Did you know that? He probably he is, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, he listened to one that I know of, so that's a half more than Robbie. Correct. That's true. Well, no, he Robbie's listened to his own exactly one episode, correct? And he was just like not too thrilled about Rob was telling me like he put it on, you know, and I think Robbie came in maybe 12 minutes or something into the show, and Rob Robbie just like stiff ass barring, like, where's the part with me?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we're we're driving, taking him to school in the morning, and I was like, it was Wednesday when it released. He's like, Oh, I think the podcast came out today or comes out today. So I was like, Let me check. And sure shit, it was there. So we started listening to it, and not three minutes into it, he I'm like, What do you think? He's like, uh, can you fast forward to the part where I come in? Yep. It's like okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh a couple things I'll say about that. One, um, I'd sent him a screenshot at midnight oh three when it was published because he insisted let me know. Uh and then two, when I talked to him on the phone before it was published, uh huh, I I I think I asked him like what the Oh, don't you have like, are you subscribed on Spotify or whatever? He's like, I think so. I'm like, uh-huh. I mean you should at least be subscribed. He's like, I don't really listen to podcasts. And I'm like, I I I go into my thing. Well, no, it's it's worse than that. I go into my thing. I'm like, it's I get it. They're not for everybody, Robbie. You know, blah blah blah. And I he's like, no, it's just they're boring.
SPEAKER_02But you were on one.
SPEAKER_00Cool, bud. Uh well, I'll let you know when your show comes out. I'm sure at the end of it, as soon as the the like the music star roll at the end, he's just like, oh cool, hit stop on you know, uninstalled this podcast playing app. He's like, done with that.
SPEAKER_02You know what I'm picturing? What? Him sitting in the Jeep with the headlights on, pointing at the trailer at your place. That was a golf cart. Because he was upset and waiting for it, and then it wasn't exp exactly what he was thinking about.
SPEAKER_00Uh probably, yeah. It was a golf cart. You remember that, Rob? No, I have to refresh my memory. It was it was one night. I don't know. He was he wanted to go do something. I don't know, but it was nighttime. So maybe he wanted to go frog, frog gigging or gigging, whatever you guys do with frogs. But and we were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, just like a couple minutes, right? And we ended up talking, you know, for I don't know, 20-30 minutes. Like an actual conversation. And so he starts driving around the golf cart, driving past the deck with all the bright headlights on the deck. He'd blind us, drive by a few times, we were ignoring him, and he's driving up from the pond, and he's the headlights are flashing. And I'm like, I'm like, I said to Rob, I said, Do you think it's possible? I said, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. Like, do you think there's a short in the headlights? He's like, Oh no, he's definitely doing that on purpose.
SPEAKER_03I'm like, damn, but yep, gets what he wants, and he gets his point across. Yes, yes, he does, so I'll give him that.
The Movie Quote Poll Breakdown
SPEAKER_00Uh okay, Mark, let's go back. Now that we've gone back 18 times to try to whatever. Movie clips. What'd you say? You want to talk about movie clips?
SPEAKER_02Um, I was uh I looked at the link that you had sent me, uh the the poll for the setting centered on uh you know nobody puts baby in a corner. Sure. And I um the absolutely was two votes. Uh imagine that it was you and Rob. Yeah. And on the no, there was seven votes. There's 70% said no that it wasn't enough.
SPEAKER_00Uh well, okay. Hold on. Let's let's go to the tape. I'll pull it up again.
SPEAKER_03There's stuff in the ballot box.
SPEAKER_00Hey, we you know, this is we play a clean game here. Um shit, how the foul there it is. Now you go oh yeah, to this thing.
SPEAKER_02I'm surprised Ryan don't have to tinkle with all that water noise in the back.
SPEAKER_00It's driving me crazy. Um all right, so I see what you're getting at, Mark. Um but you still uh you're wrong. So the poll you're talking about was the one on Facebook.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Okay. That's it, okay. What the hell?
SPEAKER_03What the sorry, I was checking the poll and I'm sorry. Apologies.
SPEAKER_02You were checking the poll. Is my scripper up next?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so you you made a point to bring this up, and then I just checked and I said, Oh, you were looking at the Facebook poll, and that's all you had to say is okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I'm not gonna fight it. I just wanted to bring it up, be an asshole.
SPEAKER_00Well, you should fight it if you feel like you're being, you know. No, uh-uh. Don't you want me to elaborate on what when I I just said it's the Facebook poll you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02Right. But I don't know what what other poll was there that I didn't see.
SPEAKER_00The YouTube poll.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the YouTube poll. I didn't see that one.
SPEAKER_00Well, two people did.
SPEAKER_02Because you know, we only have we we only have one listener on YouTube, old tequila tits.
SPEAKER_00Tequila tits. Uh I don't know if she voted though. I mean, I don't I don't know if I can tell. But um No, I I don't think she did. Okay. Well, two people. Jesus. Yeah. Did you hear that? Did you hear this bit when you were fast-forwarding through the last episode, Rob, with the poll?
SPEAKER_03And after Yeah, the tiebreaker goes to the the pole master.
SPEAKER_00And so I'm gonna get a second opinion here. Like, was he because he's doing it again right now, he won't admit it. He was pissed, wasn't he, that he lost the poll?
SPEAKER_03Uh um I almost so yes, that was my initial intuition or my initial thought, but I maybe his he did say that his his mind's on other things, and I think it's more maggy.
SPEAKER_00I agree with that. I totally agree with I in retrospect, and I didn't know that at that point. I agree. But now, yeah, here's what I'm saying. All right, I'm hearing it again. He's I think you're pissed, Mark.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's acting a little edgy. So?
SPEAKER_01No, fuck you, you're acting edgy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, fuck you guys. I'm done. Just make it the fucking RJ and Rob show. I'm leaving. Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_03That didn't take long.
SPEAKER_02No, that was real quick. I had like Yeah, that's what I've heard about you, Rob.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't take uh well, yeah. Come on.
SPEAKER_00Too easy.
SPEAKER_03Don't call me shortcomings for nothing.
SPEAKER_00Hey, that's Mark's name.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_00I'm fault. I'm false and he's shortcomings. The show about our faults and shortcomings. Oh gosh. Okay, Mark. Um look, here's the deal. Um you're pissed about it, and that's fine. Yes. Yes. Oh, you're actually gonna admit it. That's cool. Um here here's the thing. Uh there is a poll on YouTube and there was a poll on Facebook. And I voted no. Or I'm sorry, yes, in both of them. Uh you had I I think you uh I think you called in some some people uh to pump your vote, um if I'm honest.
SPEAKER_02Definitely on maybe I might have I might have posted it on Facebook excuse me, I gotta scroll forward. I might I might have posted it on Facebook.
SPEAKER_00Which is that's fine. Yeah, yeah. So uh here's the thing is and I get that you were not really on your A game on the last episode because you had things on your mind. But when I pulled up the polls, I pulled up both of them side by side. I saw that potentially you'd won the one on Facebook, and uh the YouTube one was tied at at one vote each, and so that's all I mentioned because I was trying to bait you into you know being like, come on, there's more babies and we were gonna you know it's gonna be a funny thing. Uh but you gave up too easily. Um, and so you almost did again tonight. So, alright, so let's talk about the poll. Uh the unofficial poll because YouTube almost no, I'm just kidding. All right, so Mark is correct that the poll on Facebook. Um the question again is is Mark using nobody puts a baby in a corner too much? Uh the options were yes, yep, absolutely, for sure, totally, and no. So we got one vote for yes, two votes for absolutely, and seven votes. 70% of the vote for no. So you you win.
SPEAKER_02Or I go to school, that still means I lost.
SPEAKER_00What the hell does that mean?
SPEAKER_02Anyway, on to the next subject. No, no, no. What do you mean? Yeah. I'm done with this one.
Arizona Heat And Everyday Catch Up
SPEAKER_00Okay, great. What's the next subject?
SPEAKER_02Jesus.
SPEAKER_00I know. Rob, remove Rob, what's next?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Rob.
SPEAKER_03What do you up to, Rob? Just you know, just enjoying this uh beautiful weather out in Arizona.
SPEAKER_00That's what you have on your prep.
SPEAKER_03I wasn't actually I wasn't given in a an itinerary or an agenda or anything, so I'm kind of cold here, guys.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, I know. Um what'd you say, Mark? Sorry.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna get in trouble on two sides.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So nope. Uh oh god, I miss those days. Um, so Yeah, you said it is fucking hot. Like what Brian was telling me. Um it was like a hundred or something already in Tucson.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's it it's been uh hundred, it was like a hundred plus, hundred and five, I think uh 106 or 108 Friday and Saturday. It was it's been a scorcher.
SPEAKER_00Too much. Wow. How's the weather up there, Mark?
SPEAKER_02Um it was a beautiful 61 degrees today, but other than that, we're supposed to have rain the rest of the week.
SPEAKER_00That's nice. 61 was the high. That was the high of 61. Fantastic. That sounds great. It was what's the side about Bud?
SPEAKER_03No, I thought just felt like he was rubbing it in. That's all.
SPEAKER_00No, I'm surprised he's not actually. Um, no, just rubbing it out, Rob.
SPEAKER_03Jesus. You know, it's a family show. My kids listen to this. Well, they don't sometimes. Kind of. All right, not at all.
SPEAKER_00Um I mean, we did clean jokes last time. That was, you know, that was family friendly, kinda. Yeah, it was.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, you did the Firefly joke. That's right.
Val Kilmer AI Movie News
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. It's a real glow getter. All right. You don't want to talk about movie clips? Okay. Or wait, that was your movie clip thing, sorry. Um, speaking of movie clips or movies in general, uh so there Val Kilmer is making a new movie right now, and it's coming out next about a year, year and a half, which I think is great because Val Kimner.
SPEAKER_02Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he's Val Kilmer. Oh my gosh. He's he was in Top Gun, and then he was in Heat, and he was in the Saint. Val Kilmer. You know Val Kilmer, right, Rob?
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, see?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he died six months ago.
SPEAKER_00That's beside the point.
SPEAKER_02Um I wonder if he can talk in this one. He can.
SPEAKER_03Uh, it was like a year ago, by the way.
SPEAKER_02Uh alright, here we go.
SPEAKER_00I know April 1st. All of us are like who can?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, April 1st.
SPEAKER_00April 1st?
SPEAKER_02You're quick with that phone, Rob. Oh no shit.
SPEAKER_00Dang, that was really fast. Uh you're actually wrong though. It was April 1st, 2025. So um what did you hear me say? Doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03That's like Ryan's that's Ryan's shtick. It's like even if you're right, uh, you're wrong a little bit. It was actually April 1st, 2025.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, uh my shtick is more it's a little bit that. Uh it's also a little guy, don't listen. This happens a lot with Mark. He'll be like, what's that thing? And he'll tell me, I'm like, I shut up, hold on, I'm looking at up. Oh no, no, no, it was this thing. Okay. It's like it's like magic man all over again. That was hilarious. Uh no, so uh he is actually starring, he's making a movie right now. Um get this. Uh they're it they're AIing him.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_00They're gonna it's gonna be all AI. Okay. I'm not making the movie, Mark. Okay, so don't yell at me. I'm just telling you an interesting factoid.
SPEAKER_02Interesting. Yeah, it's a good factoid.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he um so he actually was cast in the movie like five years ago or six years ago, you know, whatever, and it didn't end up getting made till now. And I guess his family, like whatever, daughter or somebody, like, you know, signed off on permission for them to use his likeness, and that's all gonna be uh generated by AI the video and the audio.
SPEAKER_02Are they gonna have like um are they gonna have Chuck Norris in it too?
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I don't know what he just died. We might we might as well AI his ass in there too.
SPEAKER_00Uh Val Kilmer was a good actor, though.
SPEAKER_02He was. He was As Deep as the Grave is the name of the movie.
SPEAKER_00Oh, cool. Yeah, well, is Chuck Norris in that? No. Okay. Uh Chuck Norris is a terrible actor. Um and I'll I stand by that.
SPEAKER_03Question though. Chuck Norris or Steven Segal?
SPEAKER_00Chuck Norris. Oh no.
SPEAKER_02Steven Segal, there's a lot of push in there. What do you mean?
SPEAKER_03He has packed on the pounds, that's for sure. Oh, is it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, he's huge. Okay. Um easy, buddy. Easy. He's almost as big as Mark.
Action Star Debate Gets Personal
SPEAKER_00You really want to poke the bear tonight? Yeah, poke the bear. Poke it. I think the bear forgot his honey part. So you know, cranky. Um, who are the options?
SPEAKER_03Steven Seagal or Chuck Norris. Which which one's a better actor?
SPEAKER_00Uh God, they're both terrible.
SPEAKER_02How about Van Dam? Ooh, you gotta throw him into the mix, too, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that way Ryan will pick one.
SPEAKER_00Jude Law, is that what you said? Uh Jude Law.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there you go. Wow, good. Yeah, Jude Law Jude Law it is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it starts with a J, Justin, Jude, who cares?
SPEAKER_00You know, uh I'm gonna I can't really think of a lot of Steven Zagal's performances. Um, I just know I've I've watched a lot of episodes of Walker Texas Ranger.
SPEAKER_03So it's a bit of a stretch to call them performances, but okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Walker Texas Ranger is a rough show. He uh Well, yeah, but it was what, the 80s? That was the 90s. Um, yeah, I mean, even even by those standards though. Like, he does this thing. I had to stop watching eventually. It's probably just an autism ADD thing that most people wouldn't care about. But he does this thing where he like has these pause inhales when he's talking. He's like, I'm here from the Texas uh trooper's office, and I'm here to look into this murder. It's like, oh god, shut up.
SPEAKER_03Like you smoking a cigarette, but not.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's like I'm I I'm I'm really exaggerating it. It's more subtle. It's just like, yeah. I think it's his like uh whatever, his patter. I don't know, he's trying like this is how I act. It's like uh, you know, Jeff Goldblum. I say that his his method of acting is just acting like he's just he's always acting like he's trying to remember it's not his lines.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. He acts like uh William Shatner sings.
SPEAKER_00You got a problem with the chat?
SPEAKER_02I don't have a problem with the chat, but I've heard his songs.
SPEAKER_00I I didn't even know he sang.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, him and him and uh Leonard Nemoy. Uh they both had an album.
SPEAKER_00Together, that's so weird. Why? No, it's separate. Okay, well I don't know if that makes it better or not. Um who's your favorite Star Trek performer turned singer, Rob It's gotta be the dude that was data. Oh, Brent Spiner. Does he sing? Oh, he does. He does standards and stuff, yeah. He's good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he really is. It's a hell of it. I can't believe I pulled that one out of my ass.
SPEAKER_00Uh good job.
SPEAKER_03It's a miracle you can pull out of your ass. Well, that's big enough.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Always need a flared bass, though. That's important.
SPEAKER_03I don't need more socks. Holy Christ.
SPEAKER_00He's worse than you. He's not even he's not even on the podcast right now, Mark. He's like on his phone.
SPEAKER_03He doesn't believe me.
SPEAKER_00He missed a whole. No, I wouldn't believe him either. So what kind of what what kind of how many songs or albums or whatever did he make? I think they each made one. Frantic typing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh uh, you should have you should have Robbie in there as like associate producer to look shit like this up, you know?
SPEAKER_03Uh a lot, actually. Oh my god. Oh yeah, you did. Like eleven no, thirteen. Albums?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh my god, I'm totally gonna listen to this shit tonight. I don't know why. I don't know why I would want to do this to myself.
SPEAKER_02William Shatner, Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.
Star Trek Singers And Deep Cuts
SPEAKER_00Uh, is it okay? I will.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna. That would be Oh, you know, Nichelle Nichols also sang with it on an album with Duke Ellington. She was hot. You know that I actually have a little thing that you don't know. So a friend of ours, her mom is a painter.
SPEAKER_00That's not a very interesting painting.
Smithsonian Art And Nichelle Nichols
SPEAKER_02But she painted uh she painted Nichelle Nichols uh portrait on she just literally painted it on the glass of the frame of the picture, and it's now in the Smithsonian. That's cool. Wow. Uh yeah, they they came to her house in Vancouver, uh wrapped it all up. The Smith Smithsonian did wrapped it all up and everything and sent it back to the Smithsonian.
SPEAKER_00Was it uh did did did she paint her like you know in that one? Not in Star Trek. Oh you know that one I'm not in Star Trek, yeah. No, not that, like the one Star Trek where she was like naked and you know stuff still turned Shatner down? Anybody with me on this? No, no, really? Uh okay. Well, she's hot, was hot. I don't know. She might be dead. Yeah, I don't know. She is. Okay. Cool. That's that's how do we get here? I have Shatner sings. Shatner. Why did that come up? Oh, because we're talking out of left field. Well, yeah, it was a little bit, but we were talking about obscure celebrities. You know who's really big, like singer-wise. Oh my god, Leonard Nemoy, the ballard of Bilbo Baggins. Bet your fucking ass I'm gonna listen to that later.
SPEAKER_02Um you better trade those menthols for something else to be able to listen to that.
SPEAKER_00That bad, huh?
SPEAKER_02That bad.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So, um, I was gonna say, well, I want to back up. So this it was your mom's friend? I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02No, it was just a friend of ours's mom.
SPEAKER_00A friend of yours. Oh yeah, yeah. So was she a prolific painter? Yes. Uh really? Like, yeah, can we look her up? Can we say her name?
SPEAKER_02I will I will have to look up her name because her daughter is married to our friend, so I'll have to look her up. Look up her name.
SPEAKER_00Does she still paint stuff?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, every year she takes a member of the family and that's a male and paints them as Santa Claus, and it is so cool.
SPEAKER_03How are you not the subject every year?
SPEAKER_02Who me? Yeah, you think he was talking to me? Because I'm the Santa Claus that goes, fuck you, little kid. You ain't getting that. I don't think Santa should say fuck you, little kid, but that's why they won't ever paint. Okay. Um, my co-producer over here uh just told me her name is Robin Damore. D-A-M-O-R-E.
SPEAKER_00D-A-M-O-R-E. And that's Robin. Yes. With an R? Yes.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Look this up. Maybe we can uh I mean Robin Dam. Oh. Artist. Oh, cool. Using light and shadow to capture life's fleeting magic. That's the quote on her uh thing on our website. Right there, boom. Nachelle Nichols, right there on uh Robin's page when you first pull it up. That's cool paintings. Wow. Well, that's awesome. I'm glad you oh, hold on. Santa's oh, those are cool. Yeah. Wow. So are all of the Santa paintings of people she knows, or just some of them, or how does that man she knows a lot of Santa's. Alright.
SPEAKER_03It's gotta be Mark in 2008.
SPEAKER_02I haven't even looked it up, so I'm the bad one here.
Europe Toilets And Navy Travel Jabs
SPEAKER_00I was gonna mention the Hoff.
SPEAKER_02The Hoff?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Robert Hasselhoff? Yeah. Yeah, like bad actors who had very successful. Yeah, actually, I don't know if Leonard Nimont and Shatner were successful singers or not. But uh Hasselhoff is huge in in Europe. In Europe, yeah, yes. Sounds like Rob's in Europe right now. Hear that in the background?
SPEAKER_02It does. Everybody's peeing on the street because they can't figure out how to use that toilet.
SPEAKER_00What does that mean? Is that a Europe crack?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because the they don't have regular toilets. A lot of places don't have regular toilets like we do. They just have that porcelain on the floor that you step your feet on.
SPEAKER_00Europe.
SPEAKER_03I'm really sorry to all of our European listeners right now. Mark doesn't know what he's talking about.
SPEAKER_00I well, I here's what I'm gonna say about that is before I go there, I want to clarify a little bit. Because Europe's kind of big. Like that's kinda sort of a broad brush, don't you think? All of Europe?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Uh Italy, France, Greece.
SPEAKER_00Are you naming all the countries in Europe right now?
SPEAKER_02All the ones that I've been to.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, okay. Yeah, that's fair. He totally just like dunked right on us, Rob.
SPEAKER_03Surprised they have planes big enough. Oh, Jesus Christ. I was on an aircraft carrier, Robert, there it is. There it is. There it is. Mark craft carrier.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I did fly on a C-130 back, so that's pretty simple. That was big enough.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, yeah, I was like, okay. See, when he said I've those are all the places I visited, I immediately realized he was talking about his navy career. And you know, I was I was fixing to give some respect and deference to that, and Rob's like, oh, airplane big enough. Boom.
SPEAKER_03Thank you for your service, Mark. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, fuck you too, you little bastard.
SPEAKER_00You two should have your own podcast.
SPEAKER_02Oh god. We need somebody to mediate and connect the audio. That too. Yeah, that too. Yeah. I was surprised today I was able to hook it up all by myself with no issues. You're right, you did. See, even Ryan's surprised.
SPEAKER_00Uh well, I now that you mention it, I am. I'm surprised and happy. Um I kind of got uh I think I would have complimented you, obviously, before we started recording, but uh, we got sort of sidetracked with Rob because he couldn't figure out how to use his son's computer.
unknownYeah.
Browsers Pop Ups And Computer Cleanup
SPEAKER_03How uh how many people? All the porn.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03I was yeah, that that was a lot. That was half the battle.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You just like you had to clear the cache and all the cookies and stuff on this browser before you could use it.
SPEAKER_03Legitimately, when I fired this thing up, he was like, uh, just so you know, there's gonna be a lot of pop-ups when you start it up.
unknownFuck.
SPEAKER_03I was like, oh no, what did you do?
SPEAKER_00What did he do? What does he mean pop-ups?
SPEAKER_03Um, I mean, he's got like 13, literally 13 different internet browsers. So I like one of them that pops like 137 duck duck go, edge, wave, a bunch of shit I've never even heard of.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like different, not just like Windows, like different different types of browser, like different software.
SPEAKER_03Different, yes. Wow, different software. I well, I I think because he's corrupted so many of them, he's had to go down the list to find new ones.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh, that is so weird. Yeah. Okay. So those all did they all open like when your computer started? Is that what he meant? Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. And where where did they go?
SPEAKER_03Well, one of them, the main one, which is Edge, that one was just stuck in a uh like frozen in a very small screen. So um, and it had like 13 windows already active in it. So yeah, it was weird. I had to I had to do a lot a lot of cleaning up before I could get the audio situation.
SPEAKER_00Oh, did you hear what Mark just dropped, but did you hear what he was saying before he dropped? The keyboard? Yep. Because he said you had to do a lot of cleaning up on the computer before you could use it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, jeez. You know, I gotta give it to him. If it's uh, you know, if it's in that realm, he's right on it.
SPEAKER_00Uh what realm? Oh, Mark's innuendo. Yeah. Oh, I know. He's uh he's got the specialty, if you will. Um yeah, so so not so a lot of pop-ups and nonsense and crap, but you you didn't have to navigate through any porn to get to clean feed.
SPEAKER_03Shockingly, no.
SPEAKER_00Good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'm not I'm not I'm also not gonna go looking for stuff.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and and yeah, I know. Uh just thank god that because you know, if it were well, I'm not gonna mention names, but you and I both know somebody who uh probably would have that as their desktop wallpaper. You know, you wouldn't have to go search high and low. Yep.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00Mark, you back? Yeah, I'm back. Okay, cool. Uh last thing Rob said before you dropped was I had to do a lot of cleanup on this computer before I could use it.
SPEAKER_02I know when I said the keyboard or the on the or the internet, and then it was I didn't get that, that part didn't go in.
SPEAKER_00You were smited.
SPEAKER_02I was smited.
SPEAKER_00I was smote. Froppy's probably he's probably like set something up on his computer, you know. He's probably building his own AI in there. We're all fucked anyway, and one of the things is like it just detected that Mark was dissing him. It's like, boom, you're out.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, feed nobody's gonna clean my feet, damn it. Clean your feet. Feed.
Incognito Mode Privacy Myths
SPEAKER_00Oh. Yeah, well, right. Nobody should have to. This is my thing. We've talked about this, uh, you and I, and like like me and Brian, we have like a dead man switch situation with our phones. It's like, no, nobody should ever see. You say feed, nobody should ever see what's in my phone or my feed or anything. Just like, you know, lock it down.
SPEAKER_02Yep, coy and I have the same same thing.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02You you what about you, Rob?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I don't look at that kind of stuff, you perverts uh Christian man. You can tell by the way he said it that he's full of shit.
SPEAKER_00I know.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00A little bit uh No, I just you know what?
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dignify that. I'm not gonna perjure myself. I'm not gonna perjure myself all over there.
SPEAKER_00Let me ask you a question, Rob. Well, actually, I'll ask both of you. Um I'll start with Rob. When you do have stuff like that, even though it's your device and it's locked, do you still use like an incognito tab?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well damn it. So I don't have a VPN set up, and uh and Arizona's got similar uh loss to as Texas does. They banned the porn out there?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so that sucks. Yeah. Well, so that was a really okay. Mark?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, me too. I don't know why, right? Yeah. Does it really do anything? It just all what it does, it just it just pr doesn't um put the history on your device. Uh it does absolutely nothing for uh privacy and your identity and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03It's just does it does it cache or it doesn't cash or anything, huh?
SPEAKER_00Not on your device, yeah. So the history wouldn't be there. But like, you know, there's no it doesn't give you any privacy or anything. Um, it's just kind of like so when like for an example uh on on my devices, um if I didn't do that, then every time I went to type galin zip block bags, G A, suggestions for my history would be alarming. That's a joke about the word gay, Mark.
SPEAKER_01I know Robert.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. I didn't hear you laughing.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I knew it was. I because I was thinking of web page BBC, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01Not that Jesus crap.
SPEAKER_03Oh fuck.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I enjoy British news as well.
SPEAKER_03Now we know what now we know what Mark's into.
SPEAKER_01No, the British version.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, somebody's gotta get through my fluffy butt, Rob. I didn't hear what you I didn't catch what you said, Mark. I said somebody's gotta get through my fluffy butt. Since I'm a fluffy guy. And he's gone.
SPEAKER_00No, I'm contemplating.
SPEAKER_03I think he's still trying to figure it out. You heard the okay, yeah, okay, all right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you need like a giant cock, right? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, BBC. Like a lucky or a lucky. Oh, wait. Oh, it's back.
SPEAKER_03It's back.
SPEAKER_00Nope. It's not that was yeah, that was my bad. That's a rule. We do not talk about lucky to hold it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, with lucky, there's no tail to the problem with lucky, there's no tail to hold on to to pull him back. Marcus.
Final Shots And Sign Off
SPEAKER_00Good lord, sir. Yeah, so if you want to donate to the dog rescue, it's gonna be one eight hundred. Oh fuck.
SPEAKER_03It's all 501c3. That's it.
SPEAKER_00Jesus Christ. That's horrible. Uh, and thank God we are out of time. Fuck.
SPEAKER_02Bullshit.
SPEAKER_00We're not out of time. We are so fucking out of time. Okay. We're over time, bud. So okay, bud. Yeah. Uh Rob, you want any last words or whatever?
SPEAKER_03You wanna thank thank you for having me on. It's great to talk to you guys.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, big checks in the mail, right, Rob? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You're uh uh I'm hoping you'll you'll waive your appearance fee since I'm family, but I understand if uh still getting it. I'll give my friends and family discount, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Don't worry about it. Thanks.
SPEAKER_02All right. Uh yeah. Kentucky, it means a whole different thing.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I'm done. Was it half off? Huh. It's the toothless discount. Oh, gummers. I'm not gonna say gummer. I'm gonna quote my other writer. Is that a gummer? Oh god. All right. Uh catch y'all next time. Have a good one.