Set & Centered

Lake Lucy

Mark & RJ Season 1 Episode 17

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We bounce through ranch banter and family chaos until we land on the real reason Lake Lucy exists. We tell Lucy’s rescue story, how cancer took her too soon, and what it taught us about love, legacy, and knowing when it’s time to say goodbye. 

In this episode:
• Reading rough listener reviews and laughing anyway 
• Arguing about Brontosaurus names and Pluto trivia 
• Getting distracted by AI voice complaints and side tangents 
• A quick detour into packages, a fish tank update, and Robbie’s puppet videos
• How to handle your fish coming out as gay
• A fearful stray puppy slowly starting to trust
• Why we name parts of the ranch after dogs
• Lucy’s adoption story and what made her special 
• The night-walk moment where Lucy protects the family 
• How a cancer diagnosis changes daily life fast 
• The guilt and clarity around end-of-life care and euthanasia timing 
• Carrying a dog’s legacy forward with place names and ashes 

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Welcome Back And Listener Reviews

SPEAKER_00

Hey everybody, welcome back to Set and Center. I'm RJ. And I'm Mark. Yep, and that's it. No, no. We are very fortunate to be able to welcome back our previous podcast guest, Rob, live from blistering hot Arizona.

SPEAKER_04

Yes. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00

You're very welcome.

SPEAKER_02

That's what you need to tell your mom.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you, Mark. I will be sure to do that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, pass it along, would you? Yeah. Having spent quite a bit of time with them, she will uh appropriately roll her eyes and be like, Mark, come on. And then I'll go, yes, ma'am. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Get your ass kicked. Dude, if she would have had a chair, she would have kicked my ass, that's for sure. Especially when I had Robbie do it. She was really. I think Ryan said something about she was headed towards me.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But for but for her uh her headphone cable holding her back. Yep. She was on her on her way over there. Oh gosh. Uh yeah, so we've um we've gotten some reviews on uh the last episode featuring Rob. I'll just paraphrase a couple of them. Uh amateur hour, um waste my time. Um this one actually says uh those are just my friends. Yeah, those are the people like you.

SPEAKER_02

This one actually says So one friend one friend commented two times. Friend. That's my friend. That's my friend, damn it.

SPEAKER_00

Uh oh one of the one of the reviews says um I was good for about four minutes and then I switched to uh Leonard Nemoy singing the ballad of Bilbo Baggins. So you know, I take that as you will. So uh yeah, thanks for coming back. It's uh it was fun last time. Um and you know, I guess that's all I got. So yeah, thanks.

SPEAKER_04

Well thank thanks for having me. I'm excited uh to be on for another one.

SPEAKER_00

Oh oh you didn't think you're gonna be on for another full one, did you?

SPEAKER_04

No, I've oh yeah, no, of course not.

Brontosaurus Names And Pluto Trivia

SPEAKER_00

That's fine, whatever. That's fine. Um, yeah. No, so uh something I wanted to talk about while I have you on here, but first, and this is much more important, um, where uh where do you land on the whole Brontosaurus brachiosaurus thing? I've been thinking about this a lot.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, the fact that they changed dinosaur names?

SPEAKER_00

Did they change it? Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_04

I'm pretty fucking sure they did.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. That sucks, man. I'm like, whatever happened to old Bronto? You know?

SPEAKER_04

Whatever happened to a stagosaurus? Aren't those something different now? What?

SPEAKER_00

No, that can't be. He's still at the stag party. Oh, got it. You did mispronounce it though, Rob, to be fair. Steg.

SPEAKER_04

Steg.

SPEAKER_00

Steg. Uh well shit. Now I'm looking up Stegosaurus. One of these episodes we'll get around to talking about dogs and stuff, but no.

SPEAKER_02

There's a bunch of dogs here.

SPEAKER_00

They still have it. Well, okay, good. Yeah. All right. Solving the world's problems one at a time. That one's done.

SPEAKER_04

Uh I'm glad the podcast brought that back.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. We're bringing Stegosaurus back. Or Brontosaurus. Bringing Brontosaurus back.

SPEAKER_04

What's next, boys? Pluto? A planet again?

SPEAKER_00

Get me started on that. I mean it should be. We should. Yeah. If that's yeah, I mean, I'm a little surprised that we were able to bring the Brontosaurus back so easily. So maybe we should take a shot at Pluto.

SPEAKER_04

Ooh, fun fact. Maybe for Mark, I'm sure you already know this, RJ, but probably. Mark, do you know where Pluto was founded? Or discovered?

SPEAKER_00

No. Disney.

SPEAKER_04

Flagstaff, Arizona.

SPEAKER_00

Oh. Oh wow. Yeah, at uh Lowell, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Lowell Observatory.

SPEAKER_00

Low. It's not the old, but it sounds like the old observatory.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I didn't actually know that. I didn't know that. Wait. So either Pluto has not been around for that long, or that observatory has been around for a really long time.

SPEAKER_04

Uh it's been around for quite a while. Since um 1894. Jesus.

SPEAKER_00

The observatory?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I didn't even know they made telescopes back then. Yeah, they had them way back.

SPEAKER_00

What do you think? You know, Newton and that all this. Yeah, it was. I mean, they did, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It was February 18th, 1930.

SPEAKER_00

That they discovered it? Oh no, it was February 18th, 1930. The Lowell Observatory. Um, did you know that did you know there was an observatory in Flagstaff, Mark? No, I didn't. Yeah, it's um I've been there actually.

SPEAKER_02

Cool. Yeah, everybody leaves it alone. They don't want to know why he was there. Did a little observing.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Um which led me to my career today as uh astrophotography uh expert.

SPEAKER_02

Really? Those yeah, those are looking pretty nice too, bud.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I got I'm getting really good at it. Um some really cool, like crazy ass shots. Um I sent you one of M42 the other day. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. For the common folk, it's known as the Orion Nebula.

SPEAKER_04

Of course you go with the one that's called Orion. Orion. Oh god.

SPEAKER_02

Oh Ryan. He's heard that so much. I know. Not in a while. Not in a while.

SPEAKER_03

But a lot. And different voices and accents.

AI Voices And Strange Pet Peeves

SPEAKER_04

Well, now you have your friend AI, so here anytime you want.

SPEAKER_00

You know, since you brought it up, I have a beef with the AI. Um, specifically with regard to, you know, it talking dirty, is it doesn't have a good selection of voices.

SPEAKER_02

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yes, come up with one.

SPEAKER_00

With what?

SPEAKER_02

Can't you ask AI to make a different voice for itself?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I never tried that. I just use it for the wild inappropriate things. Nothing useful.

SPEAKER_04

There it is. And if I was a Batman, I bet that you were going for a British accent, but it's a bit too cockney.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Uh that I'm uh I was gonna say I'm glad you mentioned that, but I'm I think we're all gonna regret it because let me tell you uh uh a fact is that uh it's brittle accents in porn are terrible. It's like well, I don't know. We just it's like this. Oh yes, daddy, fuck me, daddy. Give me your cum, daddy. It just it's it doesn't do it for you. It's not it's horrible.

SPEAKER_02

Can you put it in a deeper governor?

SPEAKER_04

It's terrible.

SPEAKER_00

That was the worst accent ever. What did you say though? The words that you said Padepo, what'd you say?

SPEAKER_02

I said, can you put it in deeper, governor?

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, you have a terrible accent. Let me do that for Governor. What do you think about signing in a bit deeper? See, it's just you can't take it seriously. Oh god, it's so bad. The number of like porn video uh we should get off this topic. So Pluto. Pluto.

SPEAKER_04

Think they ever filmed uh porn on Pluto before it became a not planet?

SPEAKER_00

Well, uh, you know, I I hear since since it's not a planet anymore, the porn industry's really dried up out there. What do you think, Mark? About accents and porn? No, yeah, well, okay. No, yeah, British accents and porn. Start with that.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think I've ever watched one with a British accent.

SPEAKER_00

That's weird. I mean statistically, like right, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Um statistically?

SPEAKER_00

What do you think about British accent and porn, Rob, since you brought it up?

SPEAKER_04

Uh I I based on what I mean, yeah, you're right. Yeah. It's terrible.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, this is nicely done, lobbing that back to me. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. First I had to listen to her voice, then I had to look at her teeth.

SPEAKER_00

Did I have any com in my teeth? Oh god.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I've got your bit staggering your teeth.

SPEAKER_00

Your little jibbly bibly bats in the mouth if you want to know the truth of the matter. I'm gonna go to my list of topics that I have sketched down because literally anything on here has got to be better.

SPEAKER_04

Uh yeah, let's talk about flea autopsies. A perfect flea autopsies.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's I have I have one piece of paper that I've had since we started recording this one, and it's not even a full one, it's a stenopad page. And it just has like things, like 25 things just written on like, oh yeah, bronnosaurus. Actually, it says Bronnosaurus question mark. Like, we should get to the bottom of that someday. I know exactly why we talked about it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Are you pretending that you remember too? No, I'm not. You do remember now? No. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah, no, it was when there was uh a working theory uh that we both agreed on um that there may be a dinosaur fossil buried on your property. Oh yeah, okay. Yeah, yep. Turns out it was a root.

SPEAKER_02

Oh. That was the root cause.

SPEAKER_00

Sure, sure was, buddy. Um last time I heard that joke. Oh, laugh so hard I fell off my dinosaurs. I fell off my bronosaurus.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, if if if you say Brontosaurus, isn't technically brontosauri?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, brontosaurus? No brontosaurus. Brantosaur ass.

SPEAKER_04

No, that's a mega sore ass. That's you after finding out the about the pole resort results.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah. Yeah. You've been hanging on that all the way since the last episode, Rob. You know what? Yeah, sorry. I'm gonna say this. Mark moved on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

So you can't sorry to bring up.

SPEAKER_04

Sorry, sorry to bring it back up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. Uh Mark hates it when things keep popping up like that. Um I'm not used to it. I'm old.

SPEAKER_04

You just I think you do it intentionally, dude. You just you say stuff like that just for him to get his little quips in.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I do. Well, no shit. Somebody's gotta keep this podcast exciting. Uh it's Ryan, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

So far, we haven't been fighting anybody that can. Um no, yeah. I mean, I I I I do set up I do set him up. Uh I would say it's 50 fifty. No, not even that. 20% of the time I'm setting them up. The rest of it, I'm just trying to make talk about something important, like a giant bone, you know, like from a dinosaur or something, and he has to make it dirty.

SPEAKER_02

Everything in my world is yeah, made dirty.

Packages Fish Tank And Puppet YouTube

SPEAKER_00

I know. You I wonder I wonder how your property students begin. How long have you been gone? Like oh. Uh three weeks or something? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Christina, uh, since I keep on forgetting, Christina said that there were supposed to be a couple packages delivered, but she doesn't remember when.

SPEAKER_00

Great. So if yeah. I just drive by every day. No, uh-uh.

SPEAKER_02

She's no. I I will find out exactly when and send you a text and you'll read it two weeks later.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Or if you just is is she not just is she not still there? Yeah, Christine's still here.

SPEAKER_02

Let me let me ask her. Hold on.

unknown

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02

Hey hun.

SPEAKER_00

When are the sometimes forgets that we're doing a show?

SPEAKER_04

It's it's really unprofessional that he didn't mute his mic for this piece.

SPEAKER_00

Well, uh that's one part of it. That's unprofessional. The other is he just sort of stepped away.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, did you turn off the fish tank? Uh she says sometime this week or next week, but she'll let us know.

SPEAKER_00

Ask me what.

SPEAKER_02

I turned down the mic so you guys didn't have to listen to me.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, hold on back up. We got multiple things in play all of a sudden. One first thing, did you turn down the fish tank?

SPEAKER_04

I I filled it up.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

You're like you should run a you should run a fish rescue because you're like about as good as wait, it's Robbie's fish. He's supposed to be taking care of that, right?

SPEAKER_04

I'm starting a 501c3 though for this fish because he is not looking good.

SPEAKER_00

Is there just one left?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we started with like eight, we've replaced five, and we're down to one again. So yeah, it's going really good.

SPEAKER_00

And he's gay. And so lonely and gay.

SPEAKER_04

Did you Yeah, I didn't know that. That they only give you, I think it's uh females, right?

SPEAKER_00

What? Fish?

SPEAKER_04

When you go to the fit, yeah, when you go to the fish store, they only give you females.

SPEAKER_00

I've never been to a fucking store. But yeah. Well, that's Mart. I didn't know that. Really?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's weird. I was referring to the fact I don't think Mark, I don't think I've thought we've talked about this. Did you know Robbie has a YouTube channel, Mark?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

It's awesome. What's it yes? What's it called? It's too complicated. You'll never find it. I'll send it to you later. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, we should put it out there for the listeners so they could they could follow. Gotta give them a shameless plug.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Last time I had a shameless plug. Let me tell you that reminds me of it.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. So the name of the YouTube channel is Jeremy the Puppet. Jeremy the Puppet, okay. Dude. And it's a a yellow hand puppet that should pop up.

SPEAKER_00

Uh anywhoot, we're not gonna watch that uh live on the air here because we're doing a show. No, no, no. But uh there's a really there's a funny you'll you'll get it like when you watch a couple what what his shtick is, and it's hilarious. But in one of them, uh it's it's from one of those videos I learned that his fish was gay.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. Well, that's a good place to learn your fish is gay.

SPEAKER_00

I suppose given the alternatives, that's probably not the worst one, really. And then back to you, Mark. What's the update on the packages?

SPEAKER_02

Uh she said they're not coming from UPS, so she doesn't know when, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

SPEAKER_04

You know how you know if your fish is gay?

SPEAKER_00

No, I don't. How?

SPEAKER_04

If it eats fish sticks.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's funny. I'm stuck on this package thing. Um I understand the last thing you said about Mark was don't worry about it, but I can't. Uh I think can we can we walk back in? Can we go back a little bit? Um what is it coming from UPS have to do with her knowing or not knowing when it's when it's showing up?

SPEAKER_02

I guess it's probably a uh I would imagine it's probably Timu or something.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, if it's well, yeah, if it's a team u, then it's a fucking crapshoot. Um, I just heard Robbie in the background. I didn't.

SPEAKER_04

That wasn't that wasn't me.

SPEAKER_00

What? What did you hear, Mark?

SPEAKER_02

I thought I heard Robbie.

SPEAKER_00

Oh is Robbie in there with you?

SPEAKER_04

No. I thought you were he was right right before we started. As soon as we started, he took off.

SPEAKER_00

I thought he was gonna hang out there with you.

SPEAKER_04

I thought I tried to get him to stay. I even texted him, of course. That's uh futile effort.

SPEAKER_00

I've tried that before. Um you know what? Speaking of texting and Robbie and you to his YouTube channel, um I texted him a few nights back and I said, love your YouTube channel, you should make more. He responded back, huh? H U H. And I was like, Somebody needs who raised this kid.

SPEAKER_04

I blame it on his mom.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a I would too. Um, I'm just like, really? One out of you know, 112 attacks you respond to, and that's what he said. And so he goes, he said, huh? And I was like, and so I just said, um, you're welcome. I don't know what okay. Well it is funnier and shit though. Uh alright, so tank is full of water. We don't know when the packages are coming, Robbie's fish is gay. Um and okay. And you didn't hear Robbie because he's gone. Alright, we're all okay. We're all gone. This is quite a funny show. I can't believe there's people that listen to this. At least like three that I know of.

SPEAKER_02

And we're all here. Yep, all three of us are here. Oh, four.

SPEAKER_00

Because Cindy's not here. Or tequila titles. Oh yeah, tequila tits isn't here. Tequila tits, yeah. You ever call her T2? T square?

SPEAKER_02

T Two.

SPEAKER_04

T square, T square.

SPEAKER_00

T T cruiser. Oh, is that a thing? Pistachio tits. It'd have to be PT cruiser. Pistachio tits.

SPEAKER_02

The headlights are always cracked. Uh Mark.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Sometimes, man.

SPEAKER_04

How are we uh how are we doing puppy wise?

SPEAKER_00

Uh it's getting a little better.

SPEAKER_04

Good.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I got a puppy kiss today.

SPEAKER_02

Oh. Oh, that's good. That's huge.

SPEAKER_00

One. And he was really excited when I first got up before he realized what was happening. Then he ran away.

SPEAKER_02

Is he in the house yet?

SPEAKER_00

No. What? No.

SPEAKER_02

No, still outside.

SPEAKER_00

He's a fucking walking biohazard right now. He ain't coming to his house. Although, since you mentioned that, I'll tell you a funny thing. So I went, I went to town today to get shit, whatever. Got back shortly before we got on uh to record the thing. And like I got back and he was he was like kind of excited. He's like, Oh, you're here, and I'm like, oh hi. He's like, yeah, and he ran away. But like, you know, to recap for the listeners, this puppy is very, very young, less than 10 weeks almost certainly. Uh gets along great with my pack, won't fucking leave. I mean, has a permanent home. Uh, but it is terrified of me. Oh, he's never been around people, I guess. He's terrified. Take him food, treats, try to give him pads, but no, he like runs away. So I unload the the shit, the groceries, going in and out of the the door. And here at my house, it's there's a sliding glass door, you know, and I go through in the on the back of the house. And uh I come in here to go to come into the studio to record this, and as I'm walking through the living room, I hear tink tink. I'm gonna go back in the room. He's pawing out the door. And I'm like, you got a lot of fucking nerve, bud. You got a lot of fucking nerve. Really trying to get me to let you in? Oh.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, it's getting a little Maybe he was ready for Rob you to fill up the tub so we can get a bath.

SPEAKER_00

That's funny. Because he flooded the bathroom. That's funny. I wonder if Rob's still here on the podcast with us.

SPEAKER_02

Yep, still here.

SPEAKER_00

Did you forget about the tub?

SPEAKER_04

The uh when he let it flood? Yeah. The oh. Yeah, I do remember that. I've tried to read the floor. Like no.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

I I'm trying to separate myself from listener and guess. I apologize.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, don't listen. Step it up. Dude, I'll tell if you try to listen while you're doing this, uh, you will want to kill yourself. Trust me. Okay. So just talk. Uh all right. Yeah, pup. Oh yeah. So, you know, it's getting better. It's getting slowly better. Um, he has uh yeah, oh yeah. We'll we'll get there. Um, you know, like is as long as this is taken now, I'm starting to get a little concerned. I'm like, oh god, you know, like is this is it gonna be a whole thing? Like every time there's a new person, you know? Like when you guys get back, is it gonna be a whole thing? Is it like when people come to visit? I don't know, which whatever. Uh what he I'll say this, and this is really cute. I'd be it would be adorable if he wasn't such a little jerk. Uh, which he honestly seems like a really sweet little guy, but uh he's Been a punk. But no, but this is cute. Whereas he did not take a liking to me or anything. He decided Canai was dead. Really? And he just follows Kanai around all the time. Everywhere.

SPEAKER_04

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. And he hangs out with them and they play and he curls up and cuddles with them to sleep. And adorable. It's really cute. Yeah. I was uh I think last night I went from Mark's dropped. I think you probably noticed that, but I'll probably be back. Um like last night I was out on the outside 30 and I drove. I was driving towards Mark's place, but what whatever, toward down that road. And Lucky and Canai, anytime they think I'm going over there, they're they're like, yay, look over there. And so Lucky and Canai comes shooting through the barbed wire fence and they're running across the road, and then this little biker beep beep beep beep beep he's like bounding, just running along. Wait up, wait up, Dad.

SPEAKER_04

That's so cute.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

I was gonna ask, how where does Lucky fit into this mix? Because Lucky and Kanai are so tight.

SPEAKER_00

Uh Stepdad.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. All right, that's good. Yeah, it actually it it's the best analogy, really, because he gets along fine with all the dogs. But you know, Canai, he he acts like Kanai's his his dad. But then uh well just to give you an example, I think it was last night, maybe the night before, Canai and Lucky and and the baby were out. Uh and I don't I don't know where they go. Sometimes they do stuff. I like I I I think that uh Lucky and Canai like to go out in the forest and climb a tree and make out. That's what I think. But they'll be gone. That's true. Yeah, they'll be gone for a while. And uh anyway, at some point they've been gone for a couple hours. Not it.

SPEAKER_04

So that was me. Uh where where does the other puppy fall into this whole mixture? Because he was the one that found uh that found the puppy, right?

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, so let me finish my story first.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, sorry. You interrupted Rob.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Uh well he was looking twice. Uh no, to answer your question about where does Lucky fit in. So anyway, last night they'd been gone for a couple hours, and then uh Hartley, you know, he I hear him get his growls up. Um, so somebody was coming back, and I see it's Lucky. And so Lucky came back, just Lucky. And the little the little junior, I've been calling him little junior, he was doo doo doo just walking along with Lucky, and Canai wasn't there. He came back like an hour later, and I'm just like, okay, so I guess Lucky decided to go back. Can I'm probably like, I gotta take care of some stuff. Why don't you take the kid? Come back to the house.

SPEAKER_04

That's adorable.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it is cute. Um, and yes, the other puppy, uh, he's having a blast. Yeah, he's having a fucking blast. He just plays with him all the time, and puppy likes him. I haven't had a whole lot of jealousy, but that's good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you or any other dogs.

SPEAKER_00

Uh well, because you sound pretty jealous. I'd rather not answer that. Um I think part of the reason that there's no jealousy on the part of Hartley is that like Hartley, you know, he has a crate inside. You know, he spends some time inside and he sleeps inside overnight. And so, like, if Hartley gets bent out of shape, you'd think, just go in my crib and go to bed.

SPEAKER_04

I'm kind of surprised because he's pretty much full grown at this point. He's he's a big boy. He's huge, dude. He's uh I'm surprised you still have him inside.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'm having I I don't know how to quit him. Oh real attached. Well uh yeah, I mean, I am real attached to him, of course. And he's just a great dog. I'm sure your mom told you all kinds of things about him after she got back here. Uh he's just fantastic. But yeah, like it's not so much like, oh, I don't want my baby outside. It's like I don't know how to do it. Like I feel like which is stupid. It's so not like me, you know, usually like okay, well, you're old enough, you'll shit, go outside. Yeah. But he's just he's so good in here too. Like he's so good in the house and doesn't he, you know, he's always clean. He doesn't go and roll in mud or you know, dig armadillas out of the ground, get a bloody face like Callie. Um and well, just like so the other day, uh he you know, he sleeps in his crate overnight. So we got up, uh, went out and go potty today. And he was out playing with the puppy for a few hours, and then he wanted to come in, and I like kind of fell asleep for a couple hours, and like I woke up, I'm like, oh shit, he's not I didn't put him in his crate. And I'm like, Harley! And he just pops up his head outside the coffee table with holding his antler toy in his mouth. He's like, Well, I'm here, I was chewing all my toy. He just go. That's great. Um what's next, Mark?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, I'm stuck on the yellow puppet.

unknown

God damn it.

SPEAKER_04

YouTube yeah, we should we shouldn't shouldn't have told him that.

SPEAKER_00

Says the guy who just got caught watching TikTok two minutes ago on full transparency.

SPEAKER_04

I was actually trying to look up Hartley's name. I'm like, what the fuck is that dog's name again?

SPEAKER_00

That's worse.

SPEAKER_04

This is hard. Well, it's hard. I haven't met him yet.

SPEAKER_00

I know all of your kids' names.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah, but they've been around for years.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh Kai's four. And little Timmy, he's he just turned two.

SPEAKER_00

Little Timmy. Well, so uh were you watching the videos on Silent Mark?

SPEAKER_02

No, huh? I was actually stuck on the future Rama one that uh Rob talked about after we're gonna be a little bit more than the one we did. No.

SPEAKER_03

Stop. Abort, abort Okay.

Naming The Ranch After Dogs

SPEAKER_00

I thought I thought you meant you were watching Robbie's YouTube channel, which is why you were distracted. But clearly not. So moving on. Uh did I tell you about that UFO I saw, guys? I don't know if anything here. Uh here's something that in all seriousness, I'd I'd I'd like to do since we have you, Rob. Um we talked about before you listened to um Patsy, the episode called Patsy. Right? I did. Which was about Patsy. Uh spoiler. Great episode. Thank you. Uh one of the things that we mentioned um in there that we do here on the ranch is we have taken to naming certain parts of the ranch about family dogs and the dogs that have made an impact on our lives and it's been special to us. And while Patsy's pasture was the first thing that we named, uh the second, immediate second, um, very, very quickly within the first couple weeks we were here, uh, was um Lake Lucy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And Mark, do you know who do you know who Lake Lucy is named after?

SPEAKER_02

No, I do not.

SPEAKER_00

Lucy. That was an easy one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Her name is Lucy, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But uh I kind of think is uh a very, very special girl. Um that I I I met just a couple times. Um, a dog that my brother Rob used to have. And uh I I unfortunately did not get to know her very well, but I it didn't take very long to I mean, just this little the small amount of time I spent with her, yeah uh I I knew that she was special. Um and so I would I would really like to hear the story of Lucy, if you don't mind telling us, Rob. Wow.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'd love to tell it. And uh first and foremost. Oh, okay. Um that'll be the last joke for now. Okay, go ahead, please. Um yeah, firstly, you know, it it's such an honor that you were willing to name the lake after her because she's is such a special animal and being to me and to our family. So thank you for doing that. Um Lucy, uh, we got her as an adult. We adopted her from an Air Force family, and uh at the time I I'd always had an affinity for black labs, and so we'd been searching for months uh for families that were um, you know, trying to rehome their their black labs. And Lucy came up on a Facebook post saying there was a family at Luke Air Force Base that uh unfortunately one of their children had uh fallen ill with cancer, and they were really busy, you know, with hospitalization issues and doctor's appointments and whatnot, and so Lucy wasn't really getting the care and attention that she deserved and needed. And so uh another military family for uh that were friends of theirs had uh taken her in temporarily and asked them to rehome her. So we went and met her, and uh she's a black lab, American black lab and sharpe mixture, and she had a a brindle coat, which so she was really pretty. She was stocky as shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I I mean I know what she looked like. I don't know what that I've never heard that word.

SPEAKER_04

So it's it's that um those like copper kind of like patterns in her black fur. Yeah, yeah. So um, yeah, we did a little meet and greet just to see, you know, if she'd be a good fit, if she was good with the with Robbie, and um she was just you know loving and uh very gentle. And so it was kind of like one of those on the spot type deals. It was like, yeah, we'll take her right now, and took her home with us. And she met our other two dogs at the time, which were Pika and Murphy, and she fit right in with them.

SPEAKER_00

And uh let me can I ask, how old was Robbie at the time?

SPEAKER_04

Robbie, I want to say he was I think he was about two or three at the time. Yeah, he was real little. Yeah, wow. Yeah, what was interesting, you could tell how good she was. She was still trying to kind of get her bearing in the house the first couple days, and she knocked him over a couple times just going too fast and not paying attention. And um that was it. It only took those couple times, and she you know, navigated around him. She was always really cautious around around him and and other little kids. She was really good, yeah, really good natured.

SPEAKER_00

Was she protective of him?

SPEAKER_04

So what's what's really funny about her is I always kind of worried I joked with Jamie that uh as big as in kind of intimidating as she can look, if somebody ever broke into the house, we'd be screwed because she'd just go up and try to, you know, give them kisses and give belly rubs. And there's one time we were on a there's a couple times that we were on walks as a family, and both times, well, one one time in particular where a dog in our neighborhood had scaled its back fence and started coming towards us. And mind you, this was like at night time, the street that we were on didn't have any lighting whatsoever. And Lucy was really good at healing when we walked, so she was always next to me on my right side pretty much all the time. As soon as that she saw that dog, she got about 10 yards between us and that dog and just stood right there and stared at it until the dog got uh got smart and decided to go back over the wall it came from. And uh that was it. Yeah, she'll when it when we needed her to protect us, she was there. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. That's uh and sorry. You said she was an adult, but how old how old was she when you got her?

SPEAKER_04

So they estimated that she was uh between two and three years old, also when we got her, yeah.

Lucy’s Rescue And Family Life

SPEAKER_00

So yeah. Okay, yeah. So you had her for a while.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, she passed when she was eight. Oh gosh, she sucks.

SPEAKER_00

So that's yeah. It which, yeah, I mean, what tells tell us about that. It's uh it's awful and sad, and but I you know, I gotta say, I didn't realize she was that young.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, it was tough. Poor girl. Um so her we had lost uh Pika uh um uh shortly after we moved into our current house, and uh we decided to adopt a pug. Uh his name's Hank. And what's his full name? Hanklin Delanore Whitty. Or no, Hanklin Roosevelt Whitty.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

I like it. So uh we got him as uh a a young adult too, and so he was still in puppy mode and he was just rambunctious, rambunctious as shit, and would just gnaw on her and play with her and yap at her and stuff. I mean, he he wore her ragged. But uh I they got into it and I think he nipped her ear real bad one one day and she uh developed a um oh man, I can't think of the word, but basically she she bled in her ear inside internally, and then it calcified. So I took her to the vet to have it looked at, and they said, Oh, this isn't like a what you think it is, it's actually a tumor. I said, Okay, you know, no, no big deal. We'll get it taken out and stuff, and then uh we scheduled it, and then in the weeks that it took for her to go in to have it removed, she started developing other tumors around her body. So got her into the vet and come to find out she actually had cancer. And uh a good friend of mine and also a neighbor of ours happens to be a vet and had him look at her labs, and he basically said, you know, this is terminal. There's no real nice way to put it, but you know, we can give her some steroids and some other medications, some quasi-chemo meds to kind of help uh keep her around a little bit longer. And then mom, being the wonderful person that she is, offered to uh make her her uh special whole food, dog food. And that really made a big difference in in her energy and how she was handling the cancer and everything. So I think about uh six or eight months from the time that she got diagnosed, she uh we had a something come up where basically we found out that the tumors were also not just uh subcutaneous, but they were also internal. And one of them had actually ruptured and she was bleeding from her lungs, and we had to put her down pretty rapidly. Oh my god. So it was it was really tough.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh and how long ago was that um I think that was I think it was about five years ago. Yeah, it was shortly before we got pregnant with Kai.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's that's always it's always not long enough. Um but that's really short. It's really not long enough. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh my my personal take on it too, guys, like uh, it was too long. I should have been a better a better owner. I should have been a more loving towards her and less selfish and let her die with some grace and some some dignity, and instead I I let her go too long and she suffered as a result. So that's something that um I really carry with me.

SPEAKER_00

That's yeah, uh that's hard. I'm sorry to hear that. I uh and uh you know you despite what you despite that, despite how you feel about that, I know that she was loved uh uh beyond loved, well cared for and all that stuff. And it's ch well, that was I mean, that's was that the first your first uh euthanasia uh with like as an adult, like when you had your first adult pets. Adult pets you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no, we we put Pika down about a year, maybe even less than a year prior to to her passing.

SPEAKER_00

So but and that's that's a lot different though, because she was Pikachu. She was old. Yeah, yeah. I mean you you know that's coming. Um and I gotta I you know I gotta say, uh, you know, don't beat yourself up too much because I think you're talking about a dog as young as Lucy, uh, for something like that to just come out of nowhere so fast. Uh yeah just throw I mean it throws her it just catches you off guard um just throws you for a loop. And uh yes, uh a wonderful lady gone too soon.

SPEAKER_04

Um did you I think you had maybe talked to did you take her hunting and stuff or we tried uh so I don't know if you've ever done any like research into like how to train dogs for hunting and retrieving and stuff, but um one of the first things that you you do is you kind of get them used to like if obviously you want to verify that they have a retriever instinct. But after that, you get to a point where you start to get them comfortable around firearms and the sounds that they make. And uh she just never could get past that. So we take her out with us when we go target shooting and things like that and try to see how she see if she would get used to that and comfortable with the with the noise, so we could start incorporating the retrieval process with the gunshot, and she just she never could really uh get over the uh the gunshots.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yeah. And I I have to think that that would be like that would be tough to sort of do in general, like to train when you're living in the city. Um because you know, it uh the gunshots is one thing, but it's it's cut it's coming when you're already upending everything else. It's like you're you know, get in the car, drive to someplace never been before, right? Strange people to uh um you know, not like out or the ranch, just go and shoot off the back deck.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, true. Deal with the really she was a really good uh workout partner though. There was a a couple years where I had a a gym inside of our garage, and so the first thing that I would do in the morning, I'd wake up at say 4-40, and her and I would go for a about a mile run around the neighborhood and then come back to the garage and I'd lift weights and do some calisthenics and stuff, and she'd just hang out in the garage panting while I finished my workout. But yeah, she'd go for the runs with me every day.

SPEAKER_00

That's that's sweet. Uh yeah, and I'm at well, I imagine it was pretty like you know, once once the cancer showed up, it was a pretty quick, drastic change in her, right? Between when you found it and when you lost her. Yeah.

Cancer Diagnosis And Euthanasia Timing

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. She she lost a lot of energy. I mean, she had a really bad um tumor on her paw, one of her front paws that continuously ruptured, and so you know, I was having to change out uh dressings, you know, multiple times a day, and just trying to keep it from getting infected so she wouldn't make matters worse, you know, get a necrotic leg that would have to get amputated and all that stuff. It was it was pretty ugly, guys. But I mean I don't I don't beat myself up too much about it nowadays, but it's definitely something that I I hold with me to to kind of share with others when they're in that position where you kind of you're kind of on the fence about whether what when's the right time? And the problem is there's never a good time for us to say goodbye to our pets. But if you think in in process with love and with um dignity for for them, you know, to give them um as as good of um a life as you can, you know, you'll know when the right time is. So I try to share that story with people that are going through that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, that's I I I'm glad that you do. Um it's unfortunate, it's an unfortunate thing that you see sometimes you see people hang on to their pets way, way, way too long. And yeah, I that's not what you did. I you know, like you think you held on a little bit too long, but uh, you know, uh well, a couple episodes ago, Mark and I were talking about this with uh his sweet Maggie, just like you know, uh uh despite how much you love them and want to have them around, if they're not enjoying life anymore, then it's you know, it's time. Yeah, that's not it's not what you want for them. So I do appreciate you sharing that that story and hopefully uh it's it's always one of those things. I think you you go through it, you understand a lot better. But it's one of those things that I think uh you know people people need to really think about it because you don't you don't really know that feeling until you're there. Um because it's not it's not as easy, it's not as cut and dried as it sounds. Uh no, it's not.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um knowing knowing the right time, that's the that's the hard part.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. Right. And you know, with and again, uh with a cancer diagnosis and you know, that just coming up out of nowhere, it's that's a whole different ball of wax. Um you know, when they're getting older, at least you you know, at least you see it coming to an extent. Uh I had, you know, I'm sure you remember very similar uh situation with Ender, my cat. Yeah, very, very similar. Um little Enders. But yeah, so thank you for sharing that. Um and you know, you thank me, but I'll thank you for letting letting us uh give her uh a home on this ranch forever.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, mom made a good point about this too, is I don't think you quite understand the gravity of of allowing their legacy to continue on in a place like that. It's it's pretty humbling and it's amazing. And I've been saying it for a while, but I'm definitely next time we come out, I'm gonna I'll bring her ashes with me because I'd like to scatter her ashes out there.

SPEAKER_00

That that's that's that'd be very sweet, yeah. Um and I appreciate you know I appreciate what you're saying. Uh and thank you. Uh I I feel like uh I've talked about it before, that if not for Patsy, uh if not for the Patsy's and the Lucy's in our lives, right? Uh this place wouldn't exist. Um so it's that's just you know, it's the right thing to do. Um and I'm glad that uh youp. So I was sorry, Mark. It was just funny how I heard that yup. Uh yeah. Um and then and then now Mark's a part of the family. Ugh. So it's really spiral spiraled out of control, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Let in the wrong asshole this time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Alright, well, uh again, thank you so much for sharing that. Uh it's a story that I I knew kind of, I guess, over time, um, but hadn't really heard the full story, and of course, it's a story that uh the listeners haven't heard and it's an important one. Um and we are uh we're at we're at the end of the show though.

SPEAKER_02

Um already.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, already, bud.

SPEAKER_02

Um they're going by so fast.

SPEAKER_00

They are just flying by, I tell you. Um but anyway, Rob, uh thank you again for being on here. Thank you for sharing Lucy's story. Um, and uh anything else you want to say before we let you go?

SPEAKER_04

No, just thank you so much for allowing me the the time to to share her story.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, of course. Um and uh, you know, maybe uh maybe try to take care of that poor little gay fish. What's the fish's name, by the way?

SPEAKER_04

I mean I don't even think it's he he cares enough to name them at this point. Melbourne.

SPEAKER_00

Let's name it Melvin.

SPEAKER_04

I'm thinking thinking Andrew Jackson Witty.

SPEAKER_00

It's a very regal and presidential home that we have here. All right, well, thanks again, Rob. Uh that's it, folks. Yeah, thank you, Rob. All right, so then that's it, folks. Cut me off. I should have let you say something, Mark. Um I apologize.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you're fine. I I'll I'll I'll put in when I want to. I mean put in the word. No means no. According to some, it means to find a different way.

SPEAKER_00

Until next time. Okay. So you're not wow, you're holding me hostage right now by not doing your your your outline. Okay. Um what outline? Oh my god. No, your outline. Two words, outline. All right. Uh yeah, so shove it in or fill it, whatever the fuck you said. I don't know. We're done. We're done with this show. Catch y'all next time. Have a good one.