Set & Centered
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Set & Centered
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We start with small talk and somehow end up in a full-blown spiral about air purifier settings, gate placement, and why our brains love to torture us over tiny choices. From ranch projects to scorpions to an 8-foot boa named Rosie, we keep laughing while we try to make sense of pets, pests, and the weird logic of real life.
In this episode:
• Joking around about the heat and getting derailed by planes on a screen
• Getting stuck on air purifier Auto mode versus Pet mode
• Needing someone to just say push the button
• Building the raptor pen and melting down over gate placement
• Setting up a climate-controlled dog shed and watching the dogs refuse it
• Realizing follow-through matters more than fancy gear
• Dealing with spring frogs and nonstop ranch noise
• Spotting a scorpion and arguing about closed-foot shoes and boots
• Telling the ants-in-pants story during vehicle recovery
• Admitting snake panic while Mark explains snake ownership
• Learning about boa enclosures, feeding routines, cleaning, and weird snake facts
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Hot Weather And Random Banter
Speaker 1Hey everybody, welcome back to Set and Centered. I'm RJ. And I'm Mark. I'm just cute. Already fucked up. I don't know. It was being fun. Like, hey, uh you know, we're talking like one episode, like, you know, they always try to get all these podcasts, the normal ones, they try to get you out, you know, right out the gate. Like, hey everybody, be in there like having a party. Yeah, so those are my air horns. Peep, beep, beep, beep. No, we're not. We're never doing that again. How's it going? It's going great. How about you? Uh good. Good. Yeah, it's still hot here. Yes, it is. It's it's definitely hot. You think you guys are gonna survive the summer? No. We're leaving. Yeah. Oh god. I tell you what, there are days it can be brutal. Um, it's you know, it's been kind of like back and forth, uh warm and warm and cool and stuff, which is it's been nice. It's like uh I thought when it got hot like a month ago, uh, that was just gonna be it. But um it whoa, yeah, I lost my train of thought. Cool. Um there's a picture of an A10 on my computer, which you pointed out earlier. Yes. And I'm like, I just was talking and I'm looking at it, I'm like, that's a cool plane. It's a definitely a cool plane. I know. That was one of my favorites. Uh second first favorite is P51D.
Speaker 3Hey the Mustang.
Air Purifier Settings Spiral
Raptor Pen Gate Decision Stress
Speaker 1Yep, P51 Mustang. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, those are cool. Um speaking of air, I guess. Uh, can I tell you about a new personal hell uh uh in my life? Sure. What do you got? This just came up today. So I don't know if you noticed, but uh I got I got an air purifier. Uh, you know, one of those ones they say it's a whole whole whole home one. Um because I'm like, you know, there's there's cats, there's dogs, there's dirt, whatever. Yep. Like I probably my hair could probably be cleaner, right? It probably could be. I thought, yeah, that's probably a good idea. So I got it, and yeah, it's reasonably priced and whatever, well reviewed. And it came today, and uh, you know, pulled out, looking at the manual, like okay, and it's got like it's going through all the different settings and fan speeds and crap, and then it gets to a thing, it's like auto. I said this is an o the thing will automatically adjust fan speed and everything based on the air quality and blah blah blah. And I'm like, perfect, great. I don't have to worry about anything, right? Okay, then I go to the next page pet mode, which is another mode in addition to auto. This is where my life fell apart because again, auto says it'll just handle everything based on air quality. And then for pet mode, it says if you have pets, this is the one for you. And I'm like, wait a minute. But if I do have pets, that should be covered under auto. You would think so. And so I've I've I've kind of been waffle, I've been in my head all afternoon. I'm like, do I use auto? Or do I use pet? If I use pet, am I missing out on something on auto? If I use auto, am I not? This is this is my brain mark. It's fucking torture. I would I would use pet. You'd use pet? I would use pet, yes. Then what's the point of auto? God, see, I'm not gonna drag it into my brain. Okay, so you think I should just use pet lost. So I should just use pet. I would use pet. All right, I'll use pet. Thank you. You're welcome. It is legitimately helpful to just have somebody be like, bet. Push this button. Push pet. Great. And if it don't work, go to autumn. How do I know if it's working though? That's the other thing. Because I've never had an air purifier in this house. I don't know. Fuck. Yeah. We're screwed. I know. It's like a similar thing to where you're just like, you use pet. So, you know, the raptor pen here. Yes. Um, and you uh yeah, you know, listeners may not, but raptor pen is a what is it, 10,000 square foot, yeah, 100 by 100 um pen that we built uh here on the ranch that's about a hundred feet away from the main house. Uh basically to uh have a place to um corral the big dogs uh when needed. Uh you know, like if there's work crews or deliveries coming or whatever. Um, because mostly they're just free range. They're free range dogs. Uh so uh my parents and I built the whole thing in like three days. Um, and so it's like I said, 100 foot by 100 foot. It's 400 foot up fence. We use five foot cattle paddle, cattle paddle, cattle panels, horse panels. I don't know. Anyway, it's a it's a very nice pen. Yes, it is. Oh yeah, I remember I was going with that. So uh of course, Mike, uh he's construction genius and he laid it all out, blah blah blah. And I would have never thought that you had to think that much about how to lay out the post for something like this. And after I saw him go through his whole thing, I realized I would have screwed it up so bad. But anyway, um damn it, Mike. Yeah, no, it was great though, because he's just like he's like, do this, do that. Uh but here's here's where we come back to my my beautiful mind. Um so one of the things is uh a gate, so he put a gate on it, or we had gotten a gate to put on it, and that was kind of as he was laying out the post, that was the last thing. He's like, So where do you want the gate? And I'm like, Oh god, I don't know. And he's like, Well, he's like, you know, it can pretty much be wherever you want. I'm like, that makes it worse. Yeah.
Speaker 2Now I gotta think.
Speaker 1Well, not just think, but torture myself. I'm like, well, if it's over here, then when I walk this way to go feed him, then but what if but then if I need it over there? And this is like the whole afternoon. Like and so at one point he's like, Do you decide where you want the gates on? And I said, Oh he's like, Well, I don't know if this helps. He said, but you can only put it on this corner or that corner. I'm like, Oh my god, really? That helps a lot. He's like, Okay, so where are you going? I'm like, Oh, I don't know. Because if it put it on this corner and going through this whole thing, um I at my mom, she was out, she was she was part, she was witness to my beautiful mind dilemma. And but she would been inside the house for a bit, probably cooking like eight meals and a hundred dozen cookies or something, yeah, taking a break from lugging bags of quick creed and eight foot posts. And she comes out, she's like, So where are we? Uh I said, Well, I'm trying to figure out where to put the gate. And she's like, Still, like, yeah, because I've put it here. She's like, put it there. She points to one corner. I'm like, Great. And that was literally it, done. She's like, What's what was so hard about that? Oh no, she gets what was so hard about it because she understands my brain. Yeah. But she also understands that part of my brain is uh spinning around about something that really doesn't fucking matter that much. And she also understands, much like you did just now, by saying, use pet. Yeah. Sometimes you just need somebody to be like, you know what? Shh stop.
Speaker 2Use pet. Well, and the cool thing about the Raptor pen is the dogs look at it from the outside.
Building The Dog Hilton
Speaker 1Well, yeah, let's elaborate on that. So we build this pen, and intentionally, um, it was 16, yeah, 16-foot uh sections of panel that we were putting up. And so we had posts every eight foot. And so we left um one on the side facing the house. We skipped one post and left just a 16-foot run because I was working on getting um what I call the dog Hilton now, but getting a shelter for them, basically, because it gets really hot here, um, which is more of the concern. It can get really cold, hot is really the concern, and it's like, you know, it it would be good for them and it would take a lot off of my anxiety if they had a climate control place where they could be. So I got this shed, found it, um, I don't know, Facebook Marketplace, whatever. Uh and I, you know, I was looking for something kind of specific, which was like a dog house, because I have so many big dogs, it's like uh doghouse but bigger. So I figured get a shed and we can finish it. I ended up finding a shed. This guy had insulated, finished the inside, and I don't know what his plan was, but it has some kind of weird sort of maybe bunk bed situation on one end. I I don't know. But anyway, it's was perfect for the dog. Perfect. So bought it, you know, several thousand dollars. Uh paid not a small amount of money to have it moved. Well, you know how much it costs to have a building moved. Yeah. So brought it over, installed it, set it right flush on the outside of the pen. And so on the pen side of the shed, then I installed a big dog door. Now, here's what we got. Got this huge, beautiful, lovely, uh large pen. And uh uh oh, let me let me add one more thing to the dog shed. And it had uh an air conditioner in it, had electricity, had lights, everything. So they have this huge pen that if they were in it, they could go in this doghouse anytime. Not only that, um I it has an I s I set an like a switch, like a thermostat switch thing, because there's an air conditioner and there's a heater. And so if it's like above whatever, then it runs the AC. If it's below whatever, it runs the heat. It's more comfortable in there most of the fucking time than my house. Right, right. They won't go in in. Nope, they won't. Because they they very quickly figured it, because you know, dogs are they're deviously smart sometimes, but because we're building this whole fucking pen and they're all out there, I was like, great, we're doing a project, we're like now, we're working, and it was like you could see in their eyes. As soon as we put that last panel up and it became a full-fledged fence, they're like, wait a minute. So even though and you and I, then you and I, uh last year, adding to the fun, we installed an automatic waterer in there too. Yep. So there's always fresh water. So uh this situation, let me just say, is ten times better than probably 80% of dogs have in their entire lives. Huge open space with trees and everything, very comfortable house with climate control and blinkies and oh, fresh water all the time, blah blah blah. And they act like it's fucking Auschwitz. I'm like, come on. Oh god. So yeah. Thanks for thanks for bringing that up. Well, I brought up the pen. You didn't have to bring up the part where they don't use it. All I said is they look at it from the outside. I think we all know what you said. Oh my gosh. Yeah, they're so stupid.
Speaker 2We've even tried I've I've tried to bribe them. Christina's tried to bribe them, your mom has. Yes.
Speaker 1And it doesn't work. It it doesn't work. Um last time she was here, she didn't she made some headway on it. Um, she could actually get, I think, everybody to at least follow her in there, except Callie. Callie will not. No. Um, but then only when she had treats and uh whatever. Just like, yeah, you're a bunch of ingredients. Yeah. The thing is, is did you follow through?
Speaker 2Me? Yeah. With uh keep on working on them with it. Oh, look at the time.
Speaker 1Uh you know, I I didn't and I've not and in all this time. Uh because, you know, I'm terrible at doing things. That's why my family has to come out here pretty regularly and bail me out of all the projects I haven't gotten done. And uh well, you know, I finally I finally, I think when you were gone this last time, I finally went into the pump house and just like threw the breaker because I ran uh I ran power from the pump house where I have my well um out to the stockhouse and I put a like a cutoff switch in there. I finally went out, I'm like, you know, I've been literally it's been two and a half years, I think. Air conditioning and heating this freaking thing, and I put mood lighting in there for them because it needs a certain ambiance. Right. 24-7, two and a half years. And I'm like, you know, what? Who's who's the idiot here? And I think the reason I left I didn't ever turn off before is I'm like, I you know, it's like conceding or giving up. But uh, you know what? And then and then almost like I would say almost by magic, but no, it's by uh duh. Well, got my next electric bill. I'm like, oh holy shit. Yeah. It was a lot less. God. Oh, but someday, Mark, someday we're gonna we're gonna make it work. Sure. Yes. Okay. Where's the encouragement, bud?
Speaker 2Uh I'm gonna have to find it. Well, okay. Yeah, I I we can we'll work on it, but there is no promises with this pack of dogs.
Speaker 1Uh no, but I mean, you were taking a dig at me, but but what is that? Do you hear that? I hear that. Okay. Um now it's got like a beat to it. You hear that? Yeah, it does.
unknownThat's so weird.
Speaker 1That is weird. Okay, it stopped. Nobody moved. Okay. Even though you took a dig at me, like, oh, did you follow through? Um you make a good point though, which is there should be some follow-through. Um, and I think if I'm checking my notes here, yeah, when you uh decide to move down here, that was one of the things. Like, I'll help you out with stuff, but so I guess you put us both on the hook.
Speaker 2Oh shit, it's back. I think it's when you move. Why is it it's Finley's fault?
Speaker 1Why does it have a beat?
Speaker 2That's so weird. It reminds me of video games when I was a kid.
Speaker 1Yeah, a little bit. Um that is honestly strange, right? Because it sounds like it's picking up some signal of something playing music. Do you hear what I'm saying? Because it was like d- d-d-d- Okay. I'm over it. He says, as you realize, this will be my whole night. What the hell's causing the like with an EM meter or whatever? Like, where is it? Uh beautiful mind, Mark. Beautiful mind. So uh yeah, well, what I was gonna I don't know, what something's oh, yeah. Nope, it's gone. Gone. I gotta I gotta hold on. I need to maximize this, I need to put something over this A10. It's not conducive to doing the sh okay. Oh, I can't see it. It's gone. I'm sad. Um oh my god, on my other screen, I pulled a window over to cover it. Oh, it's a picture of an A10 with an F22. Couldn't see that till now. Well, goddamn it. Back back to the show, right? Here we go. Um Squirrel.
Speaker 4Squirrel.
Speaker 1Uh so we before we came in, um, you know, it's springtime in Texas, and uh here on the ranch, there's uh a lot of there's a lot of wildlife and a lot of things. And one thing that happens in the spring is the the frogs get really horny. Yes. And it is a cacophony, I think would be the word 20th. I don't even know what it means. Well, it had cock in it. Cacophony. It's a cacophony. I think that's the right word. I don't know, but it's just like I don't know, if you had to estimate, I would say there's probably between two and three hundred trillion frogs out there at least. Oh my god, because well, because there's three here on the ranch, there's three proper ponds, and then there's uh a creek bed that kind of runs through a big chunk of the ranch, which because of recent rain, it's you know, marshy or whatever. Yep, and that's where the frogs are. And oh my god, you're out there, and it's not like annoying because it's nature, but it's like it's just so loud, and we're like talking like shit, man. If we did an in the wild episode right now, oh there's no way I don't even know if it'd work between the frogs, the lighters.
Scorpion Panic And Shoe Rules
Speaker 2Yeah, it would never work, right? Yep, but it's cool though, it is very cool, it is so nice. All the bugs, the frogs, the everything. Fireflies, fireflies, scorpions. Oh, yeah, that was a fun one today when Christina found that scorpion. Oh elaborate. Uh yeah, today I was out.
Speaker 1Some people call them death spiders. I don't know, you should tell her. No.
Speaker 2Uh no. I was out there mowing today at at our place, and Christina was doing some cleanup and stuff, and she just starts walking back to the fifth wheel. And next thing I know, she comes out with overalls, her boots on and stuff. And she's I stopped the lawnmower and like, what are you doing? She says, I found I found a scorpion. And I'm like, I don't think there's scorpions out here. So we looked it up, sure as hell there is, and she goes, That's it, right there. And I'm like, Oh shit. She goes, That's it. Boots and overalls and gloves and all this. And she goes, That's that's like I said, she says, That's the one, that's the one. So yeah. So she found a scorpion today and she wasn't too happy about it. Yeah, I and then you sit there and talk about oh yeah, when they get in the house, now shit. Oh yeah, but she wasn't here when I said that. Yeah, but she won't know that I said that. She is now there's that fucking noise again. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, she's uh she wasn't too thrilled with scorpions.
Speaker 1Uh well, I just uh the way you explain like her wardrobe change. Yeah, I just like in my head, it's like if if there was a hazmat suit available, yeah, that's what she would have put on. Yeah, she would have.
Speaker 2I think we're gonna go boot shopping tomorrow or something, so she gets some taller boots.
Speaker 1Well, uh let me say this. When you were telling me the story earlier, you said something that uh I'm gonna have to call her out on. You said that before she went in and put on all this uh, you know, asthmat gear, uh, she was wearing Crocs. Yeah. I specifically told her before she came down and when she was here the first time. You don't do open toe when you're out there.
Speaker 2These are the solid crocs. What the hell is a solid It's it doesn't have the holes in 'em. They're like a solid toe top croc thing. I don't know. I I'll have to you'll have to see them to yeah. She's but the back's open, right?
Speaker 3Uh yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, that's still open. Okay, I did say oh no, okay. Yeah. All right, get me on a technicality. So I said no open toe shoes. Okay, you're right. Yeah, how about no open foot shoes? Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna amend the rule.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, I I I think she's uh she she will listen now.
Ants In Pants Recovery Story
Speaker 1Yeah, I um and I'm not I'm not scared of scorpions or anything like that, but um I and I you know I wear flip-flops and sandals a lot around the house. Um I won't I won't go any further than basically the deck, um, even you know, with even me without shoes. Right. And it's not that I'm worried about getting bit or whatever, but you know, there's always that chance. But then it's the we're in the woods here, man. So just you know, even walking through and the grass and stuff, rubbing on your feet and get you itchies and crap and whatever. Yeah, and the ants and and everything else. Oh, dude, I got ants in my pants the other night. Oh shit. Which is not as bad as uncle's. Yeah. As we all know. Yeah. But uh, yeah, when I when I pulled the exped out, I was telling you that. Yep. I and in I this is the first time in probably three years I've gotten hit by ants because I am very aware of it. Um, but I think I was getting like frustrated. And whatever that I get it done. And at one point, I got on my hands and knees to shove a big piece of wood under the tire. And I was digging, like I was getting some dirt out from under the tire with my hand. Um, and I saw a few ants, and in my head, I'm like, oh man, I hope I didn't like kneel down in an ant pile. And that thought immediately evaporated. It was just a fleeting thought. It should have been more than that. So I kind of I took a break. And it was really hot and humid last time I was doing this. So took a break and I got I went inside in the LR3 in the AC to just chill for like five minutes. And I started feeling a little itchy. And I turned on the dome light. Oh my god. Oh shit. All up and down my my jeans. And um uh because a lot of my jeans, I I I try to run it, I run them into the ground. Um a lot of them have like holes in the knees and stuff because I would wear the crap out of them out here. These ones had big holes in both knees, and so of course they were inside. Oh I'm like, oh god. So I'm uh I jump out, and I'm like patting, pouring water on my legs, patting them down, brushing them off. I'm like, oh god. But yeah, so where'd where the hell did you get the water from? I had a bottle of water in the truck. Whoa. Was it whoa, I always do. Uh okay. Okay, what do you got? What's your problem?
Speaker 2Well, usually you have either uh sodas or medellos. I just figured you use the ice from the the cooler.
Speaker 1I am so mad at you right now because that is actually what happened. I swear to God. Oh god. Now let's back up. Okay, I was snared in my own trap of having a friend who knows me. All right, let's back up. So I did have a water bottle, a bottle of water in the truck. Okay. Just one. Um, and I'd been, you know, sipping on it when I was taking my breaks between Jack and the next bed up and stuff. And so by by the time I had ants in my pants, uh that water bottle was mostly empty. And so I did reach into my beer cooler and grab ice cubes, and I was rubbing them uh it through the knee holes on my legs to try to get the ants off. It was not glamorous, folks. You don't even want a picture. It was really not. And the worst part is that yes, I had my beer cooler there, but I don't I don't do stupid things like drink and like do vehicle recovery. Or actually, let me back up, be drunk and do vehicle recovery. Maybe a beer or two. But I do really try to be conscientious about like if I'm gonna do something, you know, try to get the exped out of this thing in the middle of the night. Uh point being, I I'm like, I'll drink when I'm done. And I did I hadn't had anything to drink. Which of course made it worse because I'm brushing all these ants on my god, if I was drunk right now, this would be no problem at all. Right, right. Like, why am I so awake and aware? Oh god. Yeah, thanks for the call out. Yeah, not a problem. That's what I'm here for. I look at my list and call you out on something. What do we got? What do we got? Yeah. I don't know. There's a shitload. Probably. Can't think of anything though. Uh yeah, so that that sucked. But I did get the exbet out. I'm not sure how we got. Oh, Scorpion, back to Scorpion.
Speaker 2So yeah, back to Scorpion.
Speaker 1So yeah, uh, close foot shoes. And didn't she get boots? Because I remember, like, I think when you guys came out here the first time to visit, I think we spent a whole afternoon on whether she should or shouldn't get rubber boots. She can't find the ones that she likes. I mean what? Yeah. Like how specific do these have to be?
Speaker 2Oh, specific.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2We are talking female. Is it like they don't exist or uh she can't find her size?
unknownUh oh.
Speaker 1Like Amazon? They have everything. Oh whatever. Yeah. So, but we did spend quite a bit of time on the gives and takes of rubber boots. And at one point, which I thought was funny, uh, I think the first time you guys ran to town, she's like, oh, this will be great because I can pay attention to see if people wear rubber boots around here. Yeah. And I'm like, this is your plan.
Speaker 2Yeah. Like you live four and a half miles on a dirt road and you're worried about what people are gonna have in town. Right.
Speaker 1Yep. Yeah. Uh I she doesn't even have like work boots. No. That's what I see. I think the rubber boots and not to rehash territory, because we we had the whole fucking uh think tank on this when you guys are here before, as we just talked about, but rubber boots to me, sweaty, gross. Yes. Ugh. Yep. I wouldn't be able to handle it, but that's what she wants.
Speaker 2So yeah, you gotta remember she was a pharmacy tech, so it was tennis shoes. So she hasn't had to have work boots or she has she had uh farm boots or rubber boots, but I guess it they're old, they were old and wore out, or they didn't make the move or something.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2Um now she's looking for a specific boot, but they don't have her size, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1So just tennis shoes, yeah. Yep. You know what would have been better than crocs what's that tennis shoes. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, like, again, close close foot. Now, how big was this scorpion?
Speaker 2I I don't know. I'm male, so I lie about what size things are. How big would she say it is? Not you, the size.
Speaker 1Probably about an inch, inch and a half, I guess. Oh, okay. That's small. Yeah. Did she kill it? Did she run away? Did you kill it? What happened? Uh I don't think she killed it.
Speaker 2Okay. I think she jumped away from it and headed up to the house. Did you hear her scream at any point? Uh I had the lawnmower going. So probably she did. Possibility. We'll say she did it. It sounds better for the podcast.
unknownYeah.
Snakes Fear And Unexpected Expertise
Speaker 1Well, she probably did. She probably did. Yeah. Which uh, you know, I I don't fault her for. I'm mad enough to tell you this. Uh, you know that I hate snakes. Right. Like, I can't even tell you. There's not, there aren't enough words to describe how much I hate snakes. I just I hate them so much. But you know, when I first came out here, I'm like, well, it's gonna be a thing, right? You're gonna have to deal with it. And I used to tell people, I'm like, you'll know if I ever come across a snake when I'm out on property, um, because you'll hear 10 gunshots, the sound of me screaming, the sound of me throwing the gun at the snake, and the sound of me screaming again and running away. Jesus. Because you know my panic, I'm never, I'm not actually gonna hit it. Right. Uh, but yeah, um, I think the first time my mom was out here and she knows, and this was deliberate. I want to be very clear about this. This was deliberate. So she knows how much I freaking hate snakes. We're walking around on the property, and she's like just looking around, taking it all in. She's like, Do you think there's snakes that like are up in the trees that could just fall on you? And I stopped and looked at her. I was like, Are you fucking kidding me? She's like, Well, don't you think it's a thing that you need to be aware of? I'm like, No, that's a thing that needs to not exist in my head. Yeah. I'll never go outside again. Yeah. Oh man. I used to own snakes, so Okay. I was literally just gonna ask you if you if how you feel about snakes. I love them. Well, this is the end of our friendship. Uh write down the date and time. Yeah. I camp. Okay. Well, you know what? This is good. This is a copacetic, as they say, maybe. I don't know. Or like, so you can handle them. Yeah, you're here. I had an eight-foot red tail boa. No, I don't care about that. Well, I would like to hear about no, actually, I'm really curious. Wait a minute. You had an eight-foot snake? Yeah. What did you do with the it was just there?
Speaker 2Yeah, it was just there.
Speaker 1Uh like in a tank.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. She was in her, she had a like a display case. Like an aquarium time. No, it was like a display case. Oh, she was dead. No, that the uh you know you have it at a store that people have stuff in? Sure, like a cage.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Okay. It was glass and she was in there.
Speaker 1Wait, it was a glass enclosure, yeah. Shaped like a cage. Yeah. So when I said aquarium, I was correct. Well, close. Yeah. All right. I'll give it to you. What's the difference between uh the the It would be like a No, go ahead. I don't want to get into it.
Speaker 2Yeah, but yeah, and she was cool. She ate Mickey Pops, or actually guinea pigs, frozen guinea pigs. Uh two questions.
Speaker 1What was her name? Rosie. What the fuck is a guinea pop? Uh frozen guinea pigs. God, I guess you did say that. Yeah. That's disgusting. Yeah. Wait. I thought that snakes, like you needed to feed them live things because they needed to kill it.
Speaker 2No, if you if they're raised at a young age. If you raise them right. Yeah, if you raise them right. Oh my god. You defrost them and get them up to room temperature, and then they'll wait.
Speaker 1Did you raise the guinea pigs too? No, uh-uh. Okay, that would be weird. Well, you can buy them from pet stores. Yeah. Uh okay. So alright. Uh how long did you have I had her for about two years. What was her name? Rose Rosie. Rosie. Had her for two years. Um, how how did you get her?
Speaker 2Uh a guy had her advertised on uh Marketplace. Or it was before Marketplace, so Craigslist.
Speaker 1Yeah. Uh I guess I wasn't really curious about the logistics of it. I guess my question was, why the fuck did you get her?
Speaker 2Uh because when I was in the military, I had uh ball pythons and iguanas. Oh my god. And then later on I I had another uh I got a red tail boa. Oh gosh. Uh a smaller one. See or Jones and I get another snake. Yeah. And then my son actually had a four-foot red tail boa. Oh, of course. Sure. And then so since he had one, being the good dad I am, I had to outdo him. And this doubled it. Eight-foot red tail boa came up, so got her, and then we moved to a place that I couldn't have her, so I uh gave her to a guy that was in a school or some stuff, and something like that. And so he took her and she was actually in a school.
Speaker 1Gave her to a guy who's in a school or some shit. Okay. Yeah. All right. Uh I have so many questions. Most of them are just digging down to the core of your insanity. I don't know if we're gonna get there, but um all right. Uh how much does an eight-foot boa weigh? I think she weighed like 30 pounds, 25, 30 pounds. That's less than I would think.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Um, so she just hung out in her aquarium, her enclosure. Can we agree on the word enclosure? Yeah, well, enclosure's good. Okay. So she's just like hung out there or did she come out? Oh, yeah. Did you walk her? Like, how does this work?
Speaker 2Yeah, you'd let her out and let her slither around or put her around your neck and walk around with her.
Speaker 1Oh god. Yeah. This is horrifying. Oh, God. Okay. How often would that happen? Or was she just like out like I don't know. All the time. I mean, whenever I was home. Watching when you're watching movies. Oh yeah, when you were watching movies, you'd oh, this is so gross. Yeah. Um, okay. And how old was she when you got her? I don't know. How old well, second question doesn't really make sense if you don't have the answer first. Um how well she was full grown. Yes. Do they ever stop growing? Uh no. Did you ever watch the movie Anaconda? Yeah, I watched it. The original? Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch the new one? No, I haven't watched the new one yet. It's not a remake of Anaconda. You know that, right? No, I did not know that. What it is is a it's got uh Jack Black and other people. But um it's a movie about these buddies, this group of buddies who decide to remake Anaconda. So the premise is a little Anaconda was a good movie. Like people who did not like it just don't know what they're talking about. Anyway, back to the point. Um uh Anaconda. Uh no, what was my question before that? I don't know. That was your question. Yeah. Um, yeah, so do they ever stop growing?
Speaker 2No. That's horrifying. They'll they'll just keep uh every time they shed, though, they grow a little bit more. Oh god, it's so okay.
Speaker 1Um I got rid of her because you had to move. Uh those all my questions. Uh I think so. Um, how does Christina feel about snakes? Uh, she was fine with it. God dang it. All right. If if you get another snake, yeah. When you're here, um I I don't think I'll even be able to be on your property. I probably won't get another one. I understand it's two acres, but if I just knew it was like inside somewhere. I'd I'd probably want to I'd probably want to get another one.
Speaker 2Are you over it?
Speaker 1I I think I am. Yeah. Do they do you have to give them baths?
Speaker 2Uh sometimes it'll help them shed if if they are having an issue shedding. Then you soak them in water. And and also it'll help them go to the bathroom if if they're having a problem going to the bathroom, you put them in a warm bath. They'll help them go to the bathroom. Good segue.
Speaker 1That was my one that was my next question.
Speaker 2Uh do they have like a litter box? No, uh-huh. They'll just poop in the they'll just poop in their their enclosure. Well, not if they were raised right. Yeah, not if raised right.
Speaker 1Okay, so what's on the like what's what medium would you say is like on the floor of the enclosure? Is it shavings? Is it gravel?
Speaker 2Yeah, it's it's uh shavings or or you could put uh some people have sand, which isn't good for them because then when they eat it gets in their their system and stuff. Yeah, shavings get in their system. I mean sandy, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1I mean you wouldn't want to eat a a sandy guinea pig. No, feel horrible. Um, okay, so wait, so you said shavings are bad too?
Speaker 2Yeah, it's shavings can be bad too because they could you have in there? I had well, I had shavings. Okay, but it's like can be bad, but kind of yeah, I would I would put her in in like a big tote that had nothing in the bottom of it and then didn't put the guinea pig in there. So that's Oh that yeah, okay. That makes sense. And that and that way you're not feeding them in the enclosure because when you reached in to get them, sometimes they would, you know, if you're feeding them in the same thing you're reaching in uh in to get them in, they would think that you might be the food and strike at you. Just keeps getting better.
Speaker 1Oh my fucking god. All right. Um, let's see. So you gotta is it a I'm gonna ask a question here. Is this a the the the feeding tote? Yeah. Is this a dedicated tote? Yes, it's only for that. Great, that's a good answer. Oh my god. So, okay. One of my other questions was um, how often do you have to clean like change it out, the enclosure, like those shavings or whatever? Uh or do you just scoop the poop? How does that work?
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean Do they pee? Yeah, uh well it's it's it's kind of mixed in. Okay. Yeah, so it I mean, when they poop, you just kind of scoop it up like a a litter box, but I I just clean their enclosures like once a month.
Speaker 1Okay, that's not bad.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1Um I mean it let me be clear, it it this whole thing is bad. It's this is horrifying, but uh well, how often did you feed her? Uh about once a month. Okay. And this is good. I was this is synergy, because here's where I was going with this. When you got out the death tote, the feeding tote, right, and fetter, is that when you would clean the thing? No, I wouldn't because that would make sense. Yeah, it I no. I I'm gonna give you some tips on raising the snake here, Mark. Uh okay, so uh geez. Um do you have to did did do you take them to the vet?
Speaker 2No, I never took them to the vet.
Speaker 1Are you supposed to?
Speaker 2Uh some people do, yeah. But as long as they were healthy and and shed clean, you you never had an issue with it. They don't have to get shots or anything. Uh some people do, I never did. Okay. Um they have to get rabies things? No, uh-uh. Can they get rabies? I don't think so. Not not if they're, you know, always in the house. Was she fixed? No. Do you fix snakes? No, you can't fix a snake as far as I know. Wait, you can't? No. Why would you fix a snake?
Speaker 1Well, the same reason that you'd fix dogs and snake. Oh just don't let them around another snake. Well, what if they are though? I don't know.
Speaker 2I never got that far.
Speaker 1Do boy snakes have balls?
Speaker 2No, they have not that I'm aware of. They have I couldn't even explain it. Hold on, Finley wants down.
Speaker 1Because like, how is it a boy snake?
Speaker 2It's not they might have up inside of them, but they just have uh you have to probe them to see whether they're a boy or a girl snake. Did you do that yourself? No, I never people's words for it. I I never knew whether it was uh I knew Rosie was a girl snake because that's what I was told when I got her. Okay. And then the other the ball pythons, I never knew whether they were boys or girls. But I was stationed in Florida, and back then in the late 80s, early 90s, you could actually buy them from flea market.
Speaker 1That's oof. Uh okay, so is the thing then that you just don't keep more than one snake in an enclosure?
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1So they don't play.
Speaker 2Right, so so that you don't have, yeah, you don't have the possibility. Well okay. Right.
Speaker 1But that's that's a different question. So they don't play. Uh uh. No, they don't play. Okay, they don't play. Um are they playful? Like if you got a laser pointer, would it be? No. Okay. Um this is fascinating and so horrifying at the same time. Um okay. I can just see your mind going, what the fuck? It's spinning out of control, is what's happening. Um I think I'm out for now. Okay. But um I I I asked my guy. Um, I said, Do boy snakes have balls? Okay. Uh he said, yeah, just not the kind you're picturing. I don't know if that's a shot at me. Because he knew it would whatever. Um he says, male snakes have testes, but they're internal, so you won't see eternal external balls. Yeah, sure. It's uh instead of oh god, why did I ask this question? I feel like I've this has turned into an even worse thing because the answer is uh yes, they have balls, but they're internal, basically, right? And then it elaborates, and you know what? I didn't ask for this information, but it elaborated and said, instead of a penis, they have a pair of repro a pair of reproductive organs called a called hemipenase or hemipenis. I'm uh he said, basically two of them. Like, yeah, that's uh that's fucking clarification. And so, and then he gives me a little freaking bullet point list. He goes, so number one, yes, they have testicles. Number two, no visible balls, and number three, he says, bonus weirdness, they've got two penises. Oh, Jesus.
Speaker 3Wow, yeah.
Speaker 1So we got I got my answer and more. Just what you wanted, just what I wanted. Um oh, water bowls. Yeah, they have a water bowl, yeah. They drink out of it, they'll drink out of it and they'll also soak in it. So it's a water bowl it's like a pool.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Do they drink like like cats?
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, that's oh god, because they have the fork tongue. They have the fork tongue. Yeah. Um do they know their name? No. They don't have ears. What? No, they don't have ears.
Speaker 2Snakes don't have none, none, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, they have sensory, they have uh sensory things on on by their noses.
Speaker 1They don't have ears.
Speaker 2No.
unknownWow.
Speaker 2No, that's why the guy that I that I got her from told me that uh she could hear she heard him whenever he talked. She had come out, and it's like they don't have fucking ears, you dumbass.
Speaker 1I uh okay. I I don't I didn't know they didn't have ears, but I'm gonna say this. Um I I would be I I would be inclined to maybe agree with that because you know, sound waves are vibrations in the air.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1So I feel like you left that a lot of stuff, okay. There's an enclosure, which is basically an aquarium, there's a shaving, there's a water footage, which is really a pool, there's a heat lamp, um, and then there's uh uh uh feeding tote. Um and then also they're just maybe flippering around the house all the time. Yeah. And they don't have ears.
Speaker 2Okay. And if you lose them, look in the look behind the refrigerator, because they're usually wrapped around the heater coils of a refrigerator.
Speaker 1I've never I've never been happier to say the following. We're done with the show.
Speaker 2Already?
Speaker 1Yes. I still had a lot more to talk about. God damn it. Done. Shit. Okay. Well, this was awful. Thank you. Yeah, not a problem. Alright, catch y'all later. Have a good one.
Speaker 2Hey, it's Mark here at Set and Centered. Uh, just want to let everybody know that if they want to catch us on the socials, you can catch us at our webpage, setcenter. Or on Facebook at Set Center Live. Uh, we'll maybe post some little stupid videos that we've done, stuff like that as we keep on going. And also we talk a lot about the animals here on the ranch. And you can we'll post pictures of them. We'll see how it goes. Let us know. Have a going.
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